No way klits can out box haye

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Holy ****

 

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David Haye is an offensive fighter he relys on his offence to play defence and can and has been hurt multiple times because of his defensive defiency. and again when is the last time youve seen floyd be an offensive juggernaught he usually throws a few punches then gets out of range. Do you even know who Cory Spinks is

OK so again why did Haye duck Kevin Johnson after agreeing to fight him.. Hell when you think about it he has ducked more fights then he fought since " his heavyweight invasion" began:deal

And who has haye fought with the style of Vitaly? and did you ever see the hide fight?

 

Oh brother, why do I bother??

Did I not tell you that styles make fights? don't worry about what Haye has done with other opponents, take both Haye anjd Vitali and look at them stylistically how they match up in terms of fighting style. All I am saying is that, Haye has the style to beat Vitali. Try to follow the logic. It's quite simple. Haye is an offensive counter puncher. Kevin johnson is a defensive counter puncher (I want to take the word puncher out of there for obvious reasons when it comes Johnson) If he gave Vitali so much trouble without even pulling the trigger, Haye WILL and CAN use movement, speed and a 2 fisted assault with precision and timing to stun Vitali and get out of the way. Vitali does not have quick feet, he does not move his head. He leans in and out of range, steps back or forward and looks to throw the jab, straight right, but his timing was thrown off by Johnson's movement, Haye could do the same.

So look at the context of what I am saying here. Haye has the tools, the style, and could work out a game plan to take VItali if they ever fight. Forget all the other bull crap in the past. Just take these 2 guys, picture them in a ring together, imagine how their styles match up and I can see Haye pulling it off, in similar fashion to how he beat Valuev. I mean Vitali spent 12 rounds following Johnson around the ring, looked clumsy, slow, and very one paced.

Haye's speed is going to be the key. His chin, if it holds up as he may need to take a few to give a few will also be a factor, and I know how much some of you guys love Vitali, I'm sorry if I offend you, but he's ripe for the picking, and I see a Haye win inside 10.

This is MY opinion, you don't have to agree, but don't distort reality. Vitali looked like crap against a non Puncher in his last fight, and no amount of waffle from you guys will alter that.

Haye has a GREAT chance and I think he can do it, IF he can clear Ruiz and set up the mega fight with Vitali. I am sure I and other boxing fans look forward to that!

 

I dont know why you bothered either.:yep

If you think Vitali would come out the same against Haye as he did KJ your nuts. I have a feeling Haye will bring the best out of both brothers. IMO big mistake Haye made by upsetting them.

You make it sound like Vitali is just a sitting duck.... dont forget Vitali has power in both hands and can punch with BOTH hands and Haye has a weak chin.

Haye has never been in the ring with a guy like either brother

 

Herbie Hide had the same style how well did that work out again?
and again do you even know who corie spinks is? yuo say forget all other fights and focus on now then go back to talking about the fight against johnson? Tell me do you think Haye looked good gainst Valuev?

And how much trouble did he give Vit exactly he lost every round unlike Valuev haye it was not competitive.

And again how many fights have you seen of Vitaly you really dont think he has head movement?
Again you say forget the past then go back to past fights for references... You really think haye could fight Vital as he fought valuev? they are leagues apart in skill..... here is one for you Vitaly destroyed Hide and he had the damn style as Haye now who has haye ever fought who had the same style as Vitali...

You say picture them in the ring togeather.. well if haye didnt ***** out twice against the brothers we could of seen them in the ring

And again if johnson is so bad why did Haye duck him?

 

This might be the worst case of pot/kettle I've seen on ESB. And I am not even a Klit fan, nor a Haye fan. But, honestly, do you not see the irony in your post? Accusing "yanks" of supporting their "heroes" , when you are clearly not making any attempt at being objective when it comes to your hometown fighter?

 

Yeah, but how would they fight when they are so busy avoiding fights with each other? Seriously, Haye is a good, talented fighter who's accomplishments are nowhere near reconciled with his hype. Some people have a great, great tendency to overrate their guys before they've taken on top notch talent. Haye has never been in the ring with anything like either Klitschko....and although they haven't had a challenger with his skills come along in a while, they certainly don't duck guys.

 

Herbie Hide was very fast. I remember when Vitali fought Hide in London. Wow! I was afraid that Hide was dead! Awesome!!!

Vitali will take care of Haye. Vlad will take care of Haye, but Haye appears to have zero respect for a contract! I really doubt if Haye will ever get up the nerve to fight a Klitschko, if he does, it will be a total mismatch. Vitali can box, has good defense, power, stamina, fantastic chin. Vlad has it all. Vlad's chin is good also, in spite of all the lies about him. Haye's chin, not so good, Haye has no stamina, he is off balance, he will get destroyed!!!

 

Would they need to?

 

Vitali or Vlad can knock Haye out with their jabs.

 

Valuev shots could very well be heavier - if he could land them with any regularity. We would never know.

In fact, I think brothers will have more troubles with Valuev then with Haye. They would likely have to go the distance for the win.

 

Vitali will stop Valouev, so will Vlad if that fight ever happens. Don King is not too hot on it.

 

It's seems pretty well documented that Valuev's handlers went thru great lengths to avoid both Klits for a long time.