Olympic Tests Have Never Detected HGH in an Athlete and HGH now detactable in urine.

Baseball is a skill sport, or that is aspects of it is. You can measure how much the added strength from added body mass would add to his range in hits on the deep ball.

Look, you obviously think he's a ******* so you'll just call him crazy yadda yadda, but whether you care or not, it has some validity to it.

 

The bottom line is that the best available tesing protocols are random and include both blood and urine. You can read up on this **** all day and find all kinds of conflicting information, but they should be taking both, even if only for the fact that blood can be stored longer for later testing as new technology becomes available.

 

I don't know anyone who's known to juice and won impressively. But you use Roy Jones as a juicer so I guess his whole career I could use as an example basically.

 

It has no relevance. "It doesnt matter because it doesnt help anyway" Is not a sound argument. He's a moron

As for baseball being a skill sport, so is boxing. A boxers punching power is easily comparable to a hitters power.

 

... and if Manny takes any EPO products, the 3 scheduled test will show its effect. Am I wrong?

 

NO US PRO LEAGUES TEST WITH BLOOD.

Just let that sink in a moment. MLB and NFL do in and out of competition random testing. Boxing afaik, have some measures in place to support out of comp testing also.

 

I have no idea to be exact, I don't really care.

Manny had no issue with random dates at first, now he does. Thats all I know.

 

As Tyson would say thats ludicrus! You all know RJJ was all skills in his prime. He wanted to extend his dominance, he took roids, he got bigger and bloated. Sure he beat Ruiz who is what again?? He fought Tarver whos mediocre and he got laid. thats fact!

If you want to believe Roys been juicing all from the start, thats you

 

True, but you and I and the world knows having lots power w/o the brains to use it, which I'll call boxing skill, without skill having more power is useless. Well, useless ain't quite the word, but I think you get my drift?

That's the difference with a measured sport. Getting more power from your hits in baseball equates to more homeruns. Getting more leg power in springint equals a lowered time in the sprints.

Getting more power in boxing is just getting more power, it doesn't raise your individual skill level.

It's getting more into semantics now, but tbh I'm not invested in his theory to be debating it in all honesty.

 

Im a moron, I just gave you facts lol..thats fine.

Youre a smart guy tell me Vargas really wasnt on roids for that fight against DLH. Thats was a close even money fight right? He got beat up bad. It must be the roids.

 

Wait, he dominated everyone until he went down in weight. So you've only owned yourself by adding Roy Jones to the list.

 

Exactly. So a fighter with skill and steroids is going to perform even better right?

So having power and speed in boxing doesnt help you. gotcha. :rofl

 

Roy Jones dominated with his freakish athleticism.

For the most part, the elite levels of boxing are mostly about skill, but being athletically better can only help. If you can become stronger, faster, more endurant, etc. without sacrificing your fluidity, snap on your punches, etc. it will only make you better.

 

You gave me no facts. YOu basically asked eze to list 3 boxers that steroids helped. Toney, Roy Jones and Mosley were know users of EPO. All 3 are ATG's. Toney and Roy Jones may have used EPO to pick up titles at heavyweight. Something no fighter had done in 100 years. Starting from middle and winning at heavy.

So they weren successful lol? :rofl Again how stupid are you?

"Its ok because steroids dont help" My god your idiocy is actually makin me dizzy.

 

Sure. I wasn't making that point but yea you're correct.

The first part and the second part are related but they aren't mutually exclusive to each other. Also, you can stop twisting words, the point isn't the added athletic ability won't make X fighter better. The point is that it won't make a shitty fighter into a great fighter.