Olympic Tests Have Never Detected HGH in an Athlete and HGH now detactable in urine.

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Steroids don't make a fighter better, but they do help a fighter. Ranging from, strength (clinches), Power (Punches), Speed, endurance.


    On top of that, if a fighter can train longer and harder, it's possible that a fighter can perfect their skills faster.
     
  2. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    SOME STATE BOXING COMMISSIONS DO TEST FOR PEDs WITH BLOOD.

    Just let THAT sink in for a moment, and please don't ever mention MLB's PED protocol again. They didn't even have a PED policy in place until what, 2004?
     
  3. chimba

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    He went down for Tarver?? He dominated Ruiz because he was slow as molasses.

    Again Toney/Peter 50/50 fight Toney took Roids, why didnt he win?

    Mosley was taking against Forrest? Why did he get blasted. Explain this.

    Dont give me the argument that it makes you this this and that.

    Mosley was a favorite against Forrest, He was on roids and Forrest was not? Why did Mosley not only lose but lost big??
     
  4. eze

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    It doesn't make a fighter better.

    But if lets say Manny was using something, how would it NOT help him if he was say on EPO. Which is the endurance PED.

    On EPO Manny can keep his insane pace, without it, his output drops by 20/25 punches.

    Did it make him better? No, but did it help him? Very easily thats a big yes.


    (No I dont think Manny is on anything)
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yea, just like the rest of the US after the Balco fiasco. You know like the Senate passed laws making all that stuff illegal? That happened too after Balco.
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Like I said. PEDs/ROIDS do not make a fighter better but they help a fighter.



    You cannot at all win this argument because EPO and HGH are meant to be taken with the The Cream and The Clear, which mask these test.
     
  7. dodong

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    Well, it does. Whatever Pac offerded was willing to do should have been enough to satisfy Floyds camp that he was up and up.
     
  8. chimba

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    Yeah Manny is on EPO, he gassed against JMM in the 12th. He ****ing took two rounds off against Cotto to conserve his energy because he got tired chasing him. Again these are facts..It was televised I saw this ****.
     
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    Holy crap how come it didnt help Mosley against Forrest?? Mosley was the greater fighter right? Im giving you random samples now, evenly matched athletes who you may think the ones who had the "edge" would have prevailed but they didnt.
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On an elite level... the closet or **** it. Mosley is a prime example. He was on TGH (steroid). He also used EPO to boost his endurance, and added HGH to help him heal from the added strain on his body from TGH and EPO.

    He had his last dose 5 days before ODH. Given this knowledge after the fact, he didn't crush ODH did he? I really wonder about Mosley, cuz the guy was on the full ****ing course of dope, to the gills full work up and planned system.
     
  11. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Toney didn't test positive for steroids for either of the Peter fights. He tested positive for Ruiz and Batchelder.

    Mosley was found to have taken EPO for the second fight with Oscar only.

    Get your facts straight.
     
  12. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    You are still assuming I said it makes fighters better. It does not.

    It helps fighters.

    You cannot tell me that PEDs do not help fighters.
     
  14. eze

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    Forrest is the better fighter between the two.

    I never said it would guarantee anyone a win. I merely said it would help.


    If Pac takes EPO, and he is able to punch 20-25 times more a round for 12 rounds.

    Is this not helping him?
     
  15. eze

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    First, learn to quote.

    Two, meant to as in, mask them.

    You do not have to take them but you should to mask them.