Mayweather v Pacquiao is defintely off.

Yes, I think 100% this should have been handled behind closed doors. I think it's been handled terribly and disgraces boxing. I don't know how to defend boxing if any mainstream fan wants to lay into it. They should meet up in a room and discuss all the details like adults. Instead we had to hear about Arum negotiating from the beach in Mexico. They are all pathetic egomaniacs blinded by money.

Mayorga was pretty big at that time. He was well known and had that allure about him. Stuck his chin out but laughed at flush shots. Forrest made the comment but it disappeared. The same thing would have happened to Pac had his camp not said he was scared of needles, it would affect his mindset, he doesn't want to fight etc

 

Though I agree, we must speak from Mayweathers mindset. For one reason or another he thinks Pac takes drugs, they should fight at 154 etc I don't agree but Floyd still negotiated down. Maybe Floyd after 2 years and at 30+ is struggling to make the weight. Who knows.

10 million per pound is an unreasonable request but Floyd still said yes IMMEDIATELY without batting an eyelid. He didn't even negotiate it down to a number that makes sense.

 

Can I go and watch Dexter and Californication now please?

 

Would your Mum know who Ricardo Mayorga was? I know mine wouldn't but she knows who Mayweather and Pacquiao are which, I think, is a good gauge on how high profile these guys have become.

The words "scared of needles" have yet to be succesfully attributed to Pacquiao, but there is a video of him talking, soon after the first Morales fight, about how he felt weak because of the blood test. Sure it could have been an excuse, but it's on record and is the same reason he cites for not wanting to test so close to the fight this time.

 

Perhaps he did that because he came in overweight for his last fight.

 

No, but she wouldn't have a scooby who Floyd is either.

The REACTION to the claims still stands, whether the person is mainstream or hardcore. It doesn't matter if its Mayorga or Mayweather. Where there is smoke, there is fire. That is the general human reaction, be it Mayorga or Mayweather.

I'm not solely blaming Pac. When I say Pac, I mean Pac and his camp. His PR team are terrible.

Sure, Pac didn't want to take a needle but 24 days prior to Hatton he did draw blood so why was Roach, Arum and him all saying 30 days NO LESS. Now they've taken it down to 24 NO LESS. Why not start at 24 days if you let that happen two fights ago and put on the most dominant performance of your career.

 

Surely agreeing to 10 million per pounds just shows that Mayweather knows he can make 147 comfortably?

I'd guess the amount was set prohibitively high because Pac thinks a 154 version of Mayweather would be too much for him and Mayweather knows that making 147 will be no problem at all? Its another non issue, it could be 1000 million as far as Mayweather is concerned, he knows he can make the weight and won't have to pay it.

 

It was still underweight for the 147 limit though. The flip side is if Pacs camp think this then Floyd requested 154 for a reason. To make the fight at 147 is then a genuine concession. It works both ways. Double edged sword.

 

No one knows what weight he came in at, it's shrowded in mystery.

 

Like I said, Floyd requested 154. Makes you think. What if the scales are off or he falls ill or misses training or is snowed in somewhere or whatever. Simply can't shift a pound and then he is screwed out of TEN MILLION! It doesn't make sense at all. Floyd didnt even negotiate it down. If Floyd is having trouble making weight at 32 then drying out isn't a good idea. Post Chavez fight he said he was very unhappy about drying out and he had to move up soon. He only dried out SIX POUNDS. Toney and Mayorga would laugh at 6 pounds.

 

That's true. I don't think he weighed in on the unofficial scales. Conceeding 154 then means something doesn't it as does a 10 mil fine if he misses the weight. Still, 10 mil is ridiculous. The fact you and Gaz can argue you this does show signs of Pac apologists, no?

 

Not at all, if Mayweather disclosed the weight then I would probably agree with you.

 

He claimed after the fight he could make weight but chose not to try too hard. Instead he gave up $600k. Come on, no one gives up $600k for the **** of it. He then doesn't weigh in unofficially when he has in pretty much every other fight.

Got to make you think.

It's a double edge sword. No doubt about it.

 

Come on mate, theres no way I'm going to praise a welterweight for managing to come in at 147. He knows he's good at 147 and that the 10 million per pound is an irrelevance that he won'r have to pay.

Pac didn't ask for 10 mill per pound because they don't think Mayweather can make the weight, they asked for it to stop him pulling another fast one like he did against JMM. Its just insurance to keep Mayweather honest on the weight front.

 

agree about the 10mil weight thing. mayweather make it comfortably so its no problem for him.