Cuevas & Pintor

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by robert ungurean, Jun 14, 2009.


  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,237
    64
    Jul 21, 2009
    You are right about Pintor he was kind of hot and cold at 122. I used to train with Adrian Arreola when i was a teenager and he pulled of a big upset ko over Pintor, then Pintor came back with an impressive win over Meza, then got kod by Payakarun shortly after, But the Pintor that Gave Gomez hell would have whipped anyone at jf of BT today. I agree that Pintor was to inconsistent at 122 to have reigned a long time though
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    38,034
    91
    Nov 10, 2008
    I think he would have been consistent enough to have a good reign as after the top names, it is quite bear but a name like Daniel Ponce De Leon could get a big upset if a rubbish Pintor turned up..
     
  3. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,964
    78
    Aug 26, 2004
    I don't think Pintor had too much left after losing to Gomez.
     
  4. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,237
    64
    Jul 21, 2009
    He did have a good win over a good fighter in Juan Meza though,after losing to Gomez.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

    56,079
    10,488
    Jul 28, 2009
    I just watched the six-part YT upload of Pintor VS Zarate in 79 tonight. If you can give Zarate a fight, you're a potential champ in any era.
     
  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,939
    Nov 21, 2009
    Pintor still detests Zarate. In the book "The Big If" about Johnny Owens, they go all thru Pintor's career and talk to him throughout. It is a great read and terrific for finding out about Pintor's life. But he has no pity whatsoever for Zarate's circumstances now.:viking
     
  7. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,237
    64
    Jul 21, 2009
    What did Pintor have to say, and what are Zarates circumstances?
     
  8. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

    82,426
    1,465
    Sep 7, 2008
    Anarci, I 2nd that; very interested to hear :good
     
  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,939
    Nov 21, 2009
    in the book on page 174 it says, "I've heard Zarate is in the street now," Pintor said. "He is into alco. and drugs and that will finish anyone. Being a world champion opens many ddors, some good, many more bad. People talk about you all over the world and it brings money, but you have to know how to deal w/ it. It is a starting point, but it depends on you as to where you go from there. I heard Zarate is dying from hunger. It is sad but he got what was coming to him. Carlos Zarate was a nasty person. There are many sayings in Mexico and one of them is that everyone is the architect of their own destiny. Do I have any sympathy? None whatsoever. If you live badly, you end up badly. If he came here and said,"I'm hungry" , I'd say, "Take whatever you want."If he asks me for a peso, I nwill give it.But I am not going to go out and find himand give him help. I don'y owe him anything.When he was World Champion he had everything. The world was at his fingertips, but he threw it all away. ' Interestingly, in the book it says Pintor never made wait for the Meza fight. He sweated it out and did everything but coulkdn't make weight. So they begged Montoya (meza manager) to let the fight go on for the title, ansd Montoyab did. A great read, by Rick Broadbent published by MacMillen in 2006. In my career dvd set of Piuntor, they show him going to John Owens hometown and Owen's dad (who is now dead2009), coming to Mexico. Great stuff.
     
  10. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,717
    8,939
    Nov 21, 2009
    Pintor still trains fighters today.