The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Yep, but it's insane that in 2 months they couldn't find a compromise between "The day of" and "30 days." We've been fed some truth, bull****, and misinformation by all the people negotiating this. Who the **** knows what all this posturing has bring or what they've truly held back from. To think 14 days couldn't have been negotiated a long time ago... or to think nobody could suggest this. Either way, all been handled poorly. Seems like a bad PR stunt. 14 days should be fine. There's been so much contradictions and inconsistencies and bantering back and forth about statements from both sides being untrue or incorrect. You stem it to anyone being on Floyd's side as being a cockgobbling fan. I haven't been on any side. Been objective as I could, been neutral. A lot of bull**** that this fight might not come down. Probably will later in 2010, but don't be surprised if it doesn't.

Biggest cause for this fight not to happen - EGO, POWER (Leverage), PRINCIPLES.

If 14 days is the latest, I guess it hasn't been agreed to because it's "Too late." Or maybe they disagreed at the meeting. Who knows why. Obviously we haven't been told the whole story. From both sides. That's why you're assumptions and comments haven't been objective. You haven't analyzed the situation properly, I'm afraid. Maybe your ego let you down too.

 

Yeah, but all the arguments from all the floyd fans before were stupid as ****, so I can't say in the back of my head I thought something was up.

Manny has been documented saying he wants this fight a bunch of times.
Schaefer pulling out of the dallas trip, floyd even dropping the steroid accusations at all... but if the only reason now is the drug tests proximity to the match, 14 days is PLENTY.

Manny seriously needs to answer that.

I still have serious issues with floyd mayweather, but I am starting to wonder about manny now too.

 

Congrats, you're starting to sound like a REAL boxing fan now!

 

You're talking to a guy who has floyd by UD the entire time. I just wanted to see the fight.

I am still disgusting that steroids even came into this fight, or accusations of them. That is the root of the problem, and now manny is making it worse.

I am not siding with floyd, I never will, he is a garbage human being, but I definitely think manny has some explaining to do.

 

14 days does sound reasonable, but if you look at it from the standpoint that:

1. Pacquiao could refuse to give blood altogether
2. Pacquiao could refuse to give anything more than 1 blood test or the proposed 3 blood tests
3. Pacquiao could stay fixed on his 30 day cutoff period.

He was willing to nudge it up from 30 to 24, which on the surface seems hardly like a compromise.

However in the bigger picture of the blood testing, the moving of the window from 30 to 14 days seems just like another tug in Mayweather's favor. Manny submitting to any sort of blood tests is just a feather in Mayweather's camp.

 

I hope pac agrees with the 14 day window.

 

The Floyd fanatics, just like Pac fanatics. Level-headed and even-headed people weren't giving knee jerk reactions based on one day press or a recently released statement by someone. You did this to me and even people who just expressed their opinion. It's clear that you don't have to be a Floyd gobbler to have an opposing opinion. You can't listen to the fanatics, on other end. They're clearly both agenda-oriented. Not all of the posters here are. I picked no sides, as far as I'm concerned except the side for a fight to happen. Truth can be tricky, when we don't know half of the **** that is really going down.

Dude... when are you going to wake up. Manny said I'll fight anytime but doesn't want blood within 3 days of the fight cause it makes him weak. Anything more than that he would be fine at doing. Remember Manny fans posting threads about it. These statements are posturing. Bull**** to try sway the public. Getting the upper arm to look more urgent in trying to make the fight. Truth is both teams have both fighters interests at hands. Arum isn't going to have a fight with a blood within 3-5 days of the fight even if Pac said "Along it not 3 days within fight that makes me weak." Obviously, you have to see through part of this.

I don't think he's on riods or anything. Anything is possible, obviously. But it's obvious that Pac doesn't want this fight to happen as much as he led YOU and others to believe. It's all about getting as much as they can in these negotiations. Arum has bullshited with the public, too. Posturing over blood tests for 2 months. I mean, seriously... this has stopped the fight. It's not as simple as "I want fight. Let's fight." Since they're arguing about 30 to 14 to 24 days. Does that says Pac is willing to concede to Floyd's demands for a fight? Hell no. Actions speak louder than words. You got swayed man.

 

I'm just siding with wanting the fight to happen. Obviously you have some personal strong feelings stirred up that leads you to be with Manny on this one. I don't know them personally, and I know there's been some ridiculousness from Floyd. Obviously with his ridiculous demands. But the truth about Manny wanting Floyd to be a man and just fight is really smoke and mirrors. His team is going to do everything they can to win the negotiation battle. 14 Days? I mean come on... we just want to see this fight.

Both sides accepting the terms of the fight would be a real apology. Is this fight not happening because of an apology, and 14 days being too much of a period? 24 is the number they want... come on.

 

Well, me and all the mainsteam media fell for it then, we all thought Manny Pacquiao was being legit when he brought up the blood test immediately before the fight.

I have always defended what the actual boxers said, and I still think the accusations of steroid abuse are evil and unwarranted, but now that Manny is going back on his word, he is turning out to be as bad as floyd already is.

This is not me saying Manny is on steroids, or hiding them, this is me saying "why the **** did you say a couple days, then turn down 14?"

And until he answers that, I am not convinced of anything.

Floyd is still the most detrimental boxer the sport has.

 

Until the 14 day offer came out a couple hours ago, floyd wasn't saying anything to the public, and the fight was constantly in jeopardy. So as soon as the clottey fight is signed, mayweather drops the 14 day bomb? What is going on? Did he really offer it, if he did, why isn't it being talked about by manny and his camp?
I absolutely stand by every analysis and everything I have said up to this point. I am not a huge fan of manny, in fact, him beating cotto upset the **** out of me, but he definitely had a very strong case against these steroid accusations and the blood drawing while cutting weight. It all made sense to me......

You're trying to paint it like I have been blind the whole time to some secret agenda by manny to stop this fight... That is how you saw it. I never came to conclusion, that wasn't even a possibility. The 1st questionable thing manny and camp has done is turn down a 14 day cut off clause. That is it. So let's see what his excuse on this is.

 

I don't think Manny is on steroids either. But to me it was clear awhile ago that his words, and his teams actions were two entirely different things. No?

He said awhile ago that he would fight if the blood test wasn't within 3 days. Anything else is fine. Yet Arum won't budge on 24 days.

Arum, "It's not about the blood test. We're fine with the blood test. Just that they're not done by the USDA."

And Floyd's team retracted. They wanted Nevada to do it, and then Arum did some shifting. Like the Crab he clearly is. He said, well... Nevada doesn't do it and we aren't going to make them do it. He made this whole thing turn political. He basically said, we'll do the blood tests but **** Floyd Nevada testing is fine. Nevada isn't going to take a u-turn and say that their tests aren't adequate by having a blood test.

So Arum... if it isn't about the blood tests they what is wrong with 14 days from the fight? They want 24 days, because I believe that is what HBO reported as when Manny had the blood test for the Hatton fight. So... is this a principle thing? Like we haven't done anything less than this before and we won't just for you Floyd? It's bull****. Who really wants this fight. Nobody badly enough. Not as much as boxing fans... obviously. And you know what, it sucks.

 

I am starting to think it's just not meant to happen by either fighter.
The real million dollar question is....

if floyd hadn't brought steroids into this mess, what would this contract look like right now?

 

You make a good point. I did stop following this **** around a week ago because it was a lot of bull**** and posturing.

Though, you haven't really seen how Manny and Arum's words and actions weren't exactly within the same intent. That much is clear. The 14 bomb shell is coming out after the fact that the fight is off... although I'm not sure if the Clottey fight is official at this point.

What is founded, though, is that Arum has apparently lied about actions that want on within the meditation. That says something at least. Both sides haven't done all they could.

 

Im Glad all the Pac fans are waking up and i applaud you! Clap Clap!! Right is Right. Floyd and Pac aint gave me a damn dime so Just take the drug test. I want all athletes to to take olympic style drug testing in every sport they can afford it in. Every fight thry can afford it in. Because there is to much cheating going on period.

 

Medatior claiming Top Rank / Arum lied.