why didnt frazier punch ali out in press conference's

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  1. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxing is a sport, a very disiplined sport - Ali was desperate for any advantage he could get - By annoying and insulting Frazier he hoped to find a weakness in Fraziers resolve, thus putting him off his gameplan...Didnt work and in the long run it seems Ali came off the worst from the punishment he took in the 3 fights they had.

    Bowe shoed his weakness by proving he wasnt focused by lashing out unthinkingly when provoked, not good for a disiplined sport but maybe a microcosm of Bowes unfocussed career
     
  2. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    yeah isnt that what would a coward would say after chickening out hahaha
    (fact is you have to act differently in different situations)




    ofcourse frazier was no coward, but its too bad he was too much of a gentlemen against ali.....


    everyone talks about ali finding any advantage etc, i doubt he would have held any mental edge after picking his teeth off the floor


    point is if someone broke my face, i think they would have the mental edge
     
  3. AnthonyJ74

    AnthonyJ74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hitting someone is illegal....even for professional fighters outside the ring. Bowe's lucky he didn't get arrested and charged with assault. I know the Donald camp was seriously considering pressing charges against Bowe. Bowe could have wrecked the whole fight if Donald suffered a cut or a broken nose or something. What a moron Bowe was. I doubt he would have done that if it were Tyson or Lewis badmouthing him at the time.......Typical of most so-called tough guys, who are only tough when they feel that they have an advantage.
     
  4. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if he did that decades later, ali would definitely be punched in the mouth a couple dozen times
     
  5. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the class act type out weights the loud mouths, you mofos act as if pac is the only one
     
  6. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    are you joking man, what kind of boxer presses charges because someone hit him.....
    he is not a boxer anymore just a ***** who'll get laughed out of this gym hahaha

    i dont know what bowe would have done against lewis or tyson but the whole thing about pressing charges is preety funny....


    here is a bit of knowlege, guys who presses charges after a scrap usually dont become boxers.....


    IILEGAL LOL
     
  7. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you think like that because your a thug killa drug dealla
     
  8. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    no i think this way because i have around boxing and combat sports in general for half my life.

    i have boxed in many gyms and ran into boxers from different backgrounds anything from mexican to black to russian to romanian.....

    i havent met many guys who would press charges after a scrap....


    i live in canada now and there are way too many people who think they can run their as much they want and no one has the right to shut them up....


    but anyways that guy's post is the funniest thing i have read in a while
     
  9. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so you would agree Manny Pacquiao is a *****, and you would also laugh at him? cool:pop
     
  10. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    what does this have to do with manny pacquiao and the whole thing with mayweather....


    one is an issue with lawsuits and roids etc....an issue which has a ton of threads on it

    another one is about that people who press charges after scraps generally dont become boxers....
     
  11. Sayers

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    I know 2 lads who lost their licence for fighting in the street, one of them was a ***** and just liked starting fights with strangers when he was bevvied. The other was my mate who defended himself against 2 lads then had the bizzies knocking at the door because 1 of the kids had a fractured cheekbone.

    All that half your life you were around combat sports and boxing did you not hear the trainers repremand the kids, say, for being late, or for having cuts from scrapping outside the gym or being seen with sausage dinner 2weeks before a fight? The core of boxing is not really fighting, it is discipline,in training and in lifestyle.

    The purpose of Ali's mind games is to get a reaction, whether an angry reaction or confused or deflated, any reaction. If Joe attacks him, under provocation or not, he is likely slammed in the media and by the public. If they have a fight signed it is madness to attack your opponent at a press conference in front of cameras. He would risk jeapordising the fight itself, or at least a portion of his purse in a lawsuit. If you think fighters wont sue, then just look at Pacquiao at the moment.

    Joe wasnt being a gentlemen even, he was just being a total professional, not worried about his opponents posturing only about preparing himself for the fight. You seem to have this childish idea of pride and respect where Frazier must immediately leap to defend any slight insult with a violent attack. It is especially ludicrous for him to do this when he can just fester on his anger for a few weeks and then have a full, one-on-one, legal 45 minutes to prove his superiority as a man in front of the whole world on permament historical record.

    Because that is the game now, everyone does whatever they can to get ahead. There is no reason at all that someone who fights professionally under a referee will not be willing to file criminal charges against someone who attacks them like that. Some fighters may think, "okay, I'll get him in the ring" but other will think they will get him in the pocket instead, as it appears Pacquiao is trying to do.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Standing up for yourself, yes. Being a low life scumbag whose only retort is to punch someone is never going to get far. You think you'll ever get a job with that attitude?

    Thing is, often when i hear someone talking about "being a man", they are the epitome of insecure and/or immature and try to compensate it by an abundance of aggression.

    I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but how old are you?




    If your only retort is to punch the other guy, then you definitely come across as immature and you basically concede that the other guy is capable of dominating you in the verbal exchanges.

    Yes, Frazier acted mature and as classy as one could, under those circumstances.
     
  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Take it from someone who knows, street fighting and slugging guys in the face over mere verbal insults is NOT the way to go.... If you're 15 years old, that's one thing, if you're a grown man with responsibilities and things to lose, you don't want to go there.
     
  14. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    well ofcourse any boxer who is not a jerk does not go around looking for fights and like any other person should avoid them if possible.

    that being said many boxers have bad tempers and ofcourse your coach does not want you to fight....
    but i dont care what you say pressing charges after a fight is a ***** thing to do....


    childish idea....and you have this ***** idea that by doing nothing you actually are braver and tougher then a guy that actually does something about his problem...

    and yeah frazier got him in the ring etc, but point is he never shut ali up on the spot and this is something is annoying to this day


    again the pac lawsuit is a compete different issue, i am talking when someone is in front of you calling you every name in the book....
     
  15. dabox

    dabox Active Member Full Member

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    yes punching someone who is making you like ***** race trader to the whole world is a low life thing to do....

    what are you talking about only restort....so what's your choice let the other treat you like a *****, and that way you will prove that you are not a scumbag but a true brave man because it took more guts not to confront a dangerious situations.



    and and what i hear about the whole immature/insecure thing is also something i hear a lot usually from guys who are too scared to do anything about their problems,

    so they have to find some logic to somehow convince themselfs that are not cowards....


    a person should never go around picking fights, but different situations are handled differently

    i am 28


    a little question for you....do you think a guy should be allowed to run his mouth non stop? and never pay for it....



    i see that a lot of people in north america promoting being a coward/being a rat and masking it as being brave.....