No way klits can out box haye

You know what, for once you are right! I have to agree with you there. Those 4 have proven how living off a diet of Macdonalds and Burger King can get you a title shot!!! funny that isn't it? they are living proof!!! spot on bro!

In that respect Haye is no where near them. I mean a man who can eat a bk whopper and a big mac whilst working a heavybag AT THE SAME TIME is a very dangerous man, and one to be feared. I am sure Haye is shitting himself!!

 

Nobody has ever out boxed Vitali Klitschko. Byrd could not do it and neither could Lennox Lewis. Either Klitschko would shatter Haye's fragile British Glass Mandible and Haye knows this hence all the ducking. The guy is a disgrace he has a boring fight with John Ruiz coming up that nobody cares about.

 

I am sure of that as well.

 

How does it feel to get owned by so many people in your own thread??:rofl

 

You sound ridiculous. You're making no attempt at being objective in this case. I've got no attachment to the Klits. I am trying to be objective. But you keep spouting about how Haye will do this or that to either guy because they haven't fought anyone or they haven't achieved anything when, in fact, it's your guy who hasn't achieved anything. He got an unconvincing, underwhelming victory against a huge, slow fighter who is nothing like either Klitschko. It's fairly well documented how he talked his way into a fight with both guys(despite his lack of resume) then ran from both fights. Now, I understand that he needs time to prep for guys like this and going in the ring against them too soon would be folly, so if he has genuine respect for their ability and accomplishments(despite his out of the ring antics).....why don't you? Because you are a fanboy. Which is fine, but don't make a pretense of being objective here. You're anything but. (insert whatever emoticon you like here)

 

"You sound ridiculous. You're making no attempt at being objective in this case"​

The problem is most Haye fans fall into this category they cannot be objective and are unwilling to talk about the facts on anything instead they rely on misinformation and ignore whatever doesnt fit their agenda and refuse to be even remotely objective.

 

I won't necessarily say its most Haye fans, just some. All I'm saying is let the guy do something and build up a body of work before touting him as an ATG. I like Haye as a fighter and I think he brings interest to the sport(obviously way more so in the UK than here)....and I realize alot of his antics are tongue in cheek and I get a kick out of him. If someone's opinion is that Haye will beat either Klit, fine, but you should try and be realistic when comparing their accomplishments and abilities.

 

Wrong, the content was as stupid as the style of writing.

I like Haye (consider myself a fan and would be supporting him against anyone in the division) but he struggled to out box the not-particularly-dangerous Valuev, a much quicker and precise boxer (contrary to popular belief in Great Britain Wlad actually has quite fast hands) in Wladimir would be a huge task, his only real hope being that one lucky KO punch, though Wlad is more defensively sound and likely has better punch resistance so you would favour Haye to be the one on the receiving end of a KO. Against Vitali that one lucky KO punch doesn't exist and he is up against a guy with a very good work rate, even if he is fading significantly he still has the two fundamentals to beating Haye, so essentially he is ****ed because he has poor stamina and is inconsistent.

 

listen to the Gaymeker fans and their delusions.

Chagaev, Donald, Bidenko, Ruiz, Holyfield all put up much. much, much better performances against a better version of Valuev and they didn't run like bitches in the process.

Gaymaker has no heart or balls, deal with it.

 

How many of them had signed with sauerland before the fight:huh?

 

I favour both Vitali and Wlad in a fight with Haye, but him being "too small" is a ridiculous reason for that given by some, when the true reason is becuase he probably lacks the necessary tools in various departments. What about Louis, Liston, Tyson, Holyfield? Would their size make them lose to the Klits?

 

:nono

Try again, son.

 

Chagaev, Holyfield and Ruiz did beat him.

 

Haye is a throwback to another era. He's like an 80s heavyweight. Back when which heavyweight was best always remained an exercise in abstract reasoning because they were scared to fight each other. If Haye is worthy of all the hype he is getting he needs to fight challenges instead of taking the path of least resistance. It's obvious he is not fighting the best opponents available.