The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And so now there are no drugs which can go undetected in urine samples?

    How naive of you.
     
  2. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why would he state he made it before then? Why not state he made it during? Why be so careful about that?

    He said he offered it before and he offered it now? Why not say, I offered Arum 14 days during mediation?

    You don't find that strange? You think that he stated before and still rather than during for a reason?
     
  3. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree that their supposed "proposed" fights are purely negotiation tactics for Mayweather (and back up plans too, in case it truly doesn't fall through).

    Do u think 14 day cut off period is reasonable? Or should it be 24 days in your opinion?
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    a real fighter who doesn't duck challenges doesn't care for all this excessive demands especially if he said that it is an "easy work" and an "easy fight".
     
  5. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    In Pac's instance, you clearly need to look at the video interview Pac did in 2005.
     
  6. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    This thread is about Manny's obvious reluctance to avoid stringent drug testing, not PBF. See, that's the problem with you Manny nuthuggers, intentionally deviating off on a tangent to defend the indefeasible. That's the only ammunition you have, deflect attention - just like Manny.
     
  7. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your post memory bank is actually 0, and not even 1 post.

    Describing my methods as "absolutely stupid" isn't name calling?

    If you want to sit back and say, hey I don't know **** about this, fine. That is cool.

    I am saying there isn't anything out there that I have found, no effective scenario put forth where Pac can dodge the tests , be it 14 days or even 24 days, and get an edge within that time frame which would be 19 days if you count 5 days to clear his system.

    Firstly, Mayweather made sure not to state that he asked for 14 days in the mediation. What is up with that?

    Secondly, 14 days, 24 days, 30 days, with urine testing all the way through, and blood testing before and after, there isn't any effective combo that won't get caught and there isn't anything that won't get caught that will be effective without something else that will be caught. And, add to that, that red blood cell increases show up in urine anyways.

    Add to that a 10 million Pacquiao penalty if he fails the post fight test.

    Who really wants the fight?

    Even with all that said, I would like to see a more complete answer as to why they don't cut a deal for 14 days now, however, if they wouldn't say that in the meeting is Floyd even serious?

    Hopefully more will come out about the mediation.
     
  8. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    how is Manny avoiding it? This would be the most stringent testing in the history of boxing, the stuff Pac already agreed to, Mayeather did not state he made a counter offer of 14 days during mediation, he says he made the offer before and now, neither of which is during,

    my guess is that if he made it during, Pac would have taken it.
     
  9. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't know about that it all depends on these guys and what they feel better physically and mentally with. So far I see both guys saying completely different things and Mayweather only pays attention and responds when Arum publicly says Pac's replacement is whoever. People thought Arum wouldn't be open to negotiate anything so far he has been the one trying his best and keeping everyone updated through all different sites/journalists. Mayweather's team barely tell us anything.
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    my answer to your post is quite related. floyd is know to avoid the toughest competition especially at higher weights thus we can only doubt his real intention of asking for a more stringent drug test which he didn't ask from his previous opponents.
     
  11. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    14 days is reasonable.
    Arum implied it was not offered in negotiations.
    Floyd specifically stated it was offered before negotiations and is being offered now. The elephant in the room, the question being begged, is, why didn't Floyd offer it during negotiations?

    Oh I think I know why. Because Manny's team would have said DEAL FIGHT IS ON

    to answer your question

    YES 14 DAYS IS REASONABLE in my opinion and I think most pac fans would agree.

    I am totally cool with that
     
  12. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well that's one way of looking at it.

    You have to admit that this whole thing has caused a bit of a **** storm through the media.

    And the majority of the information to the media has come from Team Pac (Arum and Co.). And as you say, Team Mayweather have been fairly quiet.

    So who's causing the **** storm really then (if Team Pac are doing all the talking)? Mayweather made a demand (and it really isn't too onerous in all honesty) after accepting all of Manny's, and after manny said no, Mayweather has done nothing but continually ease up on that demand.

    That's how I see it anyway.
     
  13. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So am I.

    And as I don't believe a word out of Arum's mouth, I strongly believe the offer was made both before AND at mediation.
     
  14. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have asked this 3 or 4 times and I never got an answer that was anywhere reasonable:

    Why won't Manny Pacquiao man up and take the random urine and blood tests along side Mayweather for this fight? Especially since there is now a 14 day cutoff period provided.

    Also why is Manny Pacquiao only suing the Mayweathers and Golden Boy Promotions for defamation when Paulie and Cintron both have said the same thing if not worse? Is it because Manny was trying to use the lawsuit as a way out.
     
  15. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    I repeat: a clean fighter doesn't give a **** if his drug test is 14 days before the fight or the day of the fight.

    Obviously you knuckleheads must have avoided or flunked quite a few drug test in your day, which is the only logical explanation for your lame defense and flagrant excuses for Manny.
     
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