Boxing needs new ped policy "now"

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  1. PildiLagiMo

    PildiLagiMo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    totally agree with the ts....if the school bully accuses your left ball is bigger'n your right, do you just drop your pants and let him fondle it whenever he demands it just to prove his wrong? :lol:
     
  2. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    I've cheated in the past as well but I've stopped. I'm not married and have no intention to commit adultery when the day does come. BUT, none of us are in the position to say that we wouldn't do it if we were in his shoes. The man is an icon in the PI, we're talking about top shelf ***** here. Yeah everyone here can say the PI is a 3rd world country full of trannies just to be funny...but damn, trust me, we have some amazingly fine ass women over there.

    I'm not trying to make excuses for what Pac did if he did in fact cheat. But I constantly see members bringing this up when Pac fans call Manny a good guy, devout catholic, or a classy person. One mistake doesn't negate everything else he's done to merit those praises.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    No it's not. Random blood tests throughout training camp prevent the use of HGH that is only detectable by blood within a 24hour window. This is why almost ever MMA fighter and probably alot of boxers are on it.
     
  4. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. Lunny

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    Degrade himself to these tests?! DEGRADE himself?!

    I'm sick of all this bull**** from Manny's diehard fans acting as if Floyd has demanded that Manny gets on all fours and sucks his dick.

    The test is NOTHING. Pac doesn't want to fight. Either he has something to hide or he's just ducking Mayweather.

    This isn't some elaborate conspiracy theory by the Mayweather's to get Pac to pull out of the fight.

    You guys are nuts.
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Not when you're paranoid as ****.

    Even still, as ****ing stupid as asking for blood tests are, 14 days is totally reasonable.
     
  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Im a catholic too, religion has **** all to do with this.... he is a scumbag because he cant make a simple sacrifice to make a fight that fans worldwide crave & the sport that made him rich needs badly.... a fkn sacrifice that would clear his name into the bargain.

    He is afraid he will lose to Mayweather or he is a cheat... its that simple.

    Mayweather is just as much of a scumbag, he could easily give in to Pacquiao`s demands & give us this fight... but no, these selfish pricks are not one bit interested in us.

    Both deserve a backlash of hatred for this shame & fanboys taking one side & letting them think its ok to do this is only gonna make it easier for them to avoid this fight.

    Its fkn bull****.
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    NSAC already follows WADA policy on urinalysis. They also have random testing protocols in place. They don't do blood testing, but then again no other US Pro Leagues do blood test either.

    There is no precedent for NSAC to suddenly go full tilt and do random blood testing to the DEGREE that Mayweather demands, especially when you consider the REALITY that USADA doesn't even test to that extent.
     
  9. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    proof please.
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Do your own damn research :lol:
     
  11. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    How the **** do you know? 24/7:yep
     
  12. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The most revealing quote I've found in relation to all of this mess is from an article on ESB front screen;

    "Freddie Roach sat in the media room after the Cotto fight and told me directly that he would "need more time than a March 13th date to prepare Pacquiao for a style like Mayweather's". "

    Not quite sure how this hasn’t been reported sooner.

    With that in mind, things have started to make a bit more sense;

    Team Floyd see their best chance to beat Pacquiao being to fight him sooner rather than later, ergo the March date was suggested;

    Team Pac see their best chance of beating Floyd being with much more preparation, therefore a delay was needed;

    Team Floyd see the delay and try to get the fight pushed along;

    Team Pac refuse to take the fight any sooner.​

    Now, somewhere in all of this, someone used the drug testing as an excuse. Either Team Pac used it to hamper negotiations, or Team Floyd used it to put pressure on Pac to take the fight sooner (with the fear that he'd be labelled a cheat if he refused). But I genuinely don’t think either foresaw what the fallout would be. However, the fall out has led to mass media coverage.

    In my opinion it's either the above, or what I said a few weeks ago, Pacquiao takes supplements of a kind which are fine under WBO regs but not fine under other regs.

    I'm no doctor though. And I think it's interesting that in all of this, there hasn’t been a single medical opinion put forward by anyone. For example, I hear that most 'performing enhancing drugs' take about 3 weeks to clear the system. Neither party has said that they would refuse drug testing immediately after the bout. Pacquiao has refused to take a test up to 30 days before the fight. Assuming for a second that Pacquiao is on the juice, that leaves a window of 9 days in which Pacquiao can cane the steds. Would a nine day steroid binge actually enhance his performance? Really? It seems like a lot of risk for little reward from Manny.

    That having been said, I do think Floyd is getting a hard time on this. It looks like it's Team Pac that is holding things up. Funny thing is, if Team Pac said - "We're not fighting in March. Floyd is a fantastic fighter and will be the toughest opponent that Manny has faced. We want to spend a lot more time preparing for this fight, choose the right sparring partners and come up with a fool proof game plan. So we suggest November" - then no one would really blame them. But it doesn’t sell tickets nearly as well as a grudge match does it?

    Anyway, I still think that this will happen before the end of the year.
     
  13. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I blame Manny and I blame floyd. Both need to be pissed on for this fight not coming off
     
  14. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're right about that. One of the girl's he allegedly messed with (link above) is pretty damn hot. Not sure what I'd do in his shoes.
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn't matter what your opinion is because NSAC (NFL, MLFB, etc) follows WADA banned substance policies. You or anyone can look up the pdf and clearly see what is not allowed. You don't need a doctor to figure this out, nor do you on the testing methodology. Again all this is detailed on WADA's site.

    Also, the degree of testing that is proposed is quite aggressive and unique since USADA does not test the athletes under their supervision to that length either.