John Ruiz is the Best American HW.

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  1. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would like to add something.

    Ruiz is a good, but LIMITED fighter. Fighters with more talent have done much less with their careers. Ruiz is not easy to fight against (unless you areTua and Roy Jones).

    He has an OK chin, OK stamina, and he can punch a little bit. If he didn't clutch and grab all the time I think he would maybe have some more KO's.

    Personally I think Haye beats him but Ruiz makes it interesting.
     
  2. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he won by ko toney won by pure unadulterated ROBBERY
     
  3. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    golota LET ruiz back in...had nothing to do with ruiz right?
     
  4. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How dumb are you? These aren't your threads. You are in no position of authority or control. :lol:
     
  5. TerryESB

    TerryESB The Final Boss Full Member

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    That's true I have no authority. But I suggest you do the smart thing and just quietly walk away, because I will verbally own you. Show yourself to the door.
     
  6. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't say that. It was both. Golota stepped off the gas and Ruiz tattooed him with some awesome shots.

    In all fairness. Ruiz' one KD was a push and the point deduction was garbage. I had no issue with Ruiz winning a decision in that fight. He wanted it more.
     
  7. Ilesey

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    Zak, I'm not claiming he's some teak tough heavy who is massively underrated. The fact is that if he were that bad, holding or otherwise, then the fighters who are light years ahead of him should be able to take this guy apart with ease.

    The fact still remains that Toney twice has used steroids and on one occassion it was againt Ruiz. Simple. And lets not pretend Holyfield is a saint with the use of his head.
     
  8. Ilesey

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    This. :good
     
  9. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thank you.
     
  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Bingo. We have a winner. Anybody who knows anything about Ruiz's misbegotten career knows he cheated in virtually ever fight he had against top competition.

    When opppents are prevented from using their superior abilities to win, by a fighter who constantly uses ILLEGAL tactics to keep a real fight from breaking out, that hardly demonstrates ability. It's cheating, pure and simple.
     
  11. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney won by easy second round stoppage.

    No robbery there.
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    How hilarious would it be if the referee for Haye/Ruiz was Jay Nady? :lol::rofl:patsch

    Ruiz might as well turn around and walk out of the ring if that happens.
     
  13. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Actually it would be opposite.If he didnt clinch he would have been Tua'ed several times over.Look what happened when tried to box with Golota for the first 2 rounds.He was getting tagged easy and got dumped on his ass twice and then he reverted back to the huggy bear style.Ruiz is trash.
     
  14. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Wlad and Haye aren't American................

    I know it's your thread and all but I'm just trying to be helpful. :good
     
  15. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Not at all, Povetkin is a much better boxer than Valuev. Obviously The Giant has that size factor but let's not compare skills, it isn't even close.