The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    "guilty until proven innocent", as always. but as mayweather is being accused of this drug, "innocent until proven guilty"
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No you look guilty after claiming "clean" then ducking testing. THEN you are "guilty until TESTED innocent". :deal
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    So is this true that he's been numbing his hands or just a rumour?
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Read up the chain my friend. It is being presented completely out of context.
     
  5. eze

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    No, as we can see if this substance is illegal, which Im still unsure if it is.

    They've used it prior to fight time, which Mayweathers/DLHs help wouldn't be a factor considering it's a numbing issue.

    While EPO would still be helpful despite not showing up in test.


    With that being said, Ill say it for the millionith. I do not believe Pac is on anything but his actions are fishy.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    how can EPO still be helpful by fight time despite not showing up in the test? Is it because it allows fighters to train harder during camp?
     
  7. eze

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    Let me just say this.



    If you takes steroids to make you stronger, and you bench 200lbs prior to taking roids.

    After 4 weeks, you bench 300.

    And for one week you stop and they are out of your system.

    Do you think that you automatically go back to benching 200lbs?
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    Do the steroids increase your bench press even if you aren't training?
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    :lol:

    Does the person rarely lift? Or does the person lift a lot?
     
  10. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    EPO only helps during training, AND can be out of your system within the 24 days that Arum wants.

    Still I dont believe Pac is on anything.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    This brings me back to my question : Is it helpful because it allows fighters to train harder during camp?
     
  12. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they give you that extra strength boost one can use to develope muscle.
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    HELPFUL yes.

    If it helps Pac throw 20-25 punches than he would if he wasn't on EPO is a huge factor.


    Does it make him better? No. Does it give him a chance to be better? Yes.



    Now with the hand cream issue/numbing shot. I have yet to see proof its illegal.

    EVEN THEN. It's MEANT TO NUMB. Which has no factor during fight night. While if someone trained EPO, it would.
     
  14. dodong

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    How can anybody argue that a (Lidocaine) drug that help a fighter mask pain not illegal?... It was said that Floyd uses it for his hand... but why stop there. He could actually have applied it to his upper body and arms to numb pain receptors. It would make him feel like he's wearing an armor. No wonder, JMM's punches didn't seem to have any effect on him.

    Next time somebody fight Floyd, they should test him between rounds.
     
  15. Jack

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    Look at the Hernandez fight. Mayweather clearly has unusual problems with handling hands injuries. Its probable that if Mayweather went down in that fight, he could have done the same in later bouts. Whether this drug would have come in then or not, is the question. We do know that this type of drug would have helped Floyd in the past though.
     
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