The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

He has never tested positive. Since we have established that the NSAC rules are sufficient to catch cheaters he must not be a cheater. Who wants to disagree with this statement?

 

Exactly. Which is why I don't even put much stock in the original article which states otherwise. Xylocaine has been illegal in Nevada for a while now, so if Floyd was really using right before a fight the commission would have already gotten wind of it right?

Plus, it's a very common anaesthetic. Bob Arum should've already been all over this **** by now, but he ain't, I wonder why? I'm guessing several of his fighters have been using too.

 

The NSAC testing has been questioned by Mayweather. So by implication, we have not established its sufficiency. Therefore, under this cloud of suspicion, Floyd is as potentially guilty as Pac. The only difference being that Floyd has admitted use whereas Pac is alleged to have used.

 

This ****'s old news. Hatton and his trainers made a fuss about it in the lead up to that fight, pressuring NSAC to make sure that they tested for lidocaine in the post fight urinalysis. They did, and obviously he did not test positive.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3019074.ece

 

Right. And if the NSAC testing is insufficient then the solution is additional testing. Which fighter wanted that again?

Also, Floyd has admitted to legal use of a substance that is only illegal during a narrow window of time. Let's not get carried away with the bull**** here.

 

Agreed! We're all for additional and updated testing. Both Pac and Floyd agreed to be blood tested. They just don't agree on the cut-off date.

Yes. it's legal to be used 1 week away from the fight. Except that Jim Lampley explicitly stated that Floyd used it just prior to the fight which doesn't sound like 1 week to me.

 

Jim Lampley also said that Barrera beat Hamed because Allah willed it. Lampley says a lot of stupid ****. NSAC test for lidocaine, and Floyd has never had a positive test. He's as clean as Pac if you choose to apply the same standards.

 

He didn't "explicitly" state Floyd "just used" prior to a fight (or maybe I missed that part?). "Just used" could easily mean a week or two prior.

 

WHat happened to your initial 49 states?


Epic fail!!!

 

now were going somewhere...

 

I've never said Pac was dirty. My only contention is that either

a) You believe that Mayweather has been cheating in his fights by using Lidocaine within one week of the fight, but that he has not been caught by NSAC. Therefore you believe that NSAC does not do a sufficient job of testing for use of banned substances, and should support more rigorous testing of precisely the sort Mayweather asked for in his fight with Pac

or

b) Mayweather has not been cheating and this whole ****ing thread is stupid and pointless.

So I expect to see a lot of posters either side with Mayweather in the drug test debate or let this stupid ****ing topic drop.

 

good points well made, i also agree there's nothing wrong with him using a banned substance in other states. If it's legal by the NSAC then floyd should be allowed to use it.

this could lead to a deal for the floyd vs pac deal to be done.

i think it would be fair to fight in the dallas stadium in which both fighters will come to a compromise.

Floyd will not be able to use the banned pain injections substance there (illegal in texas), and pac will have to agree to this additional olympic drug style blood test.

this can work and its fair deal.

would be interesting to see if floyd ever fights outside of nevada in the future, maybe his future opponents will use this against him now and include it in their negotiations to ask for outside of nevada. I remember Arum saying something is 'fishy' when he said Schaefer won't even bother to even consider getting on the plane to go to dallas and discuss the fight venue there. Well now he knows lol!

 

nice insight

 

lmao your unreal

 

Is Pac being accused of being a doper more now than before because his team mishandled the media?