Monzon vs. Pavlik

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  1. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    I'm aware that most people are probably going to be pitching a Monzon wipe-out here. What I'm wondering is how he deals with a bigger, heavier man who "fights tall", keeps pumping the jab and relentlessly pressurizes. How much of Monzon's ability is predicated on physical advantages? Can Pavlik give him trouble?
     
  2. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    ****, meant to post a poll.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Not really, I feel this would be a boxing clinic, with a late stoppage for Monzon on the cards.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    It would be a stoppage for Monzon on the order of his ko's over fairly tall man like Tony Mundine and Gratien Tonna. If Pavlik has a little height on Monzon, it would have done him no good..Monzon stops Kelly in 10.
     
  5. Godfather

    Godfather I put the G in God Full Member

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    This wouldnt be competitive. Mid-late rounds stoppage
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Neither Mundine or Tonna were taller than Monzon, Tonna is actually listed as being shorter. Pavlik is 3-4inches taller and similar advantages in reach

    Stylistically both Monzon and Pavlik like to control the fight with their jab and 1-2 and fight at a high pace. Pavlik has a big advantage with rangyness and even speed so from the outside Pavlik is pretty much the boss. Monzon has the better defense and timing which could neutralise Pavlik from the outside. But he would find himself having to come inside and pressure Pavlik. Pavlik is a good inside fighter himself with good power.

    I see the fight being really close and pick Monzon's pedgree, better skills and mentality to edge him a decision but its not a good match up for him

    Its interesting a great deal of this forum were proclaiming Pavlik as the new Monzon prior to his schooling from BHOPs
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I remember one person on here saying that.
     
  8. McGrain

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    And quite a lot of people laughing at him.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    There was a whole thread talking about Pavlik being the next great MW and plenty were on the bandwagon :yep
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69604

    This is thre thread you mean. The "plenty" on this bandwagon is comprised of one person, SuzieQ who says that "Pavlik is very similar to Monzon". He's sort of backed by Jack who says that "like Monzon is overlooked, Pavlik won't get the appreciation he deserves" (not a direct comparison in terms of quality).
     
  11. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I happen to like Pavlik and think he'll prove to be a solid champ most likely, when all is said and done for him. And I think this would be a great fight for as long as it takes Monzon to murder Pavlik.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Funny reading, Mendoza was pretty much lapping it up with
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No.
     
  14. Briscoe

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    I'd like to see Pavlik do well, but he's not proving anything right now. If he only would have taken care of his hand the right way, we'd never have this kind of doubt and a lot of his planned fights wouldn't be against lesser known opponents.

    Overall, Monzon was too relentless. That's where I give the nod to the old champ.
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Actually, that thread is pretty funny post-bump.