Who's "0" has been more protected, Calzaghe's or PBF's?

Calzaghe by a ****ing street. Look at his WBO title defences, many of them wouldn't have beaten who ever was holding the European title at the time.

Almost all of Floyd's opponents were genuinely world class at the time - Kessler isn't any better P4P than Ricky Hatton... who isn't one of Floyd's top 3 wins.

Marquez is a better win than Jones, if you are looking at their last fights.

 

Calzaghe fought the best available fighters who would give him a chance. Nobody in the US gave a younger Calzaghe the chance when good opposition was available in the mid 90s.

As for Floyd Mayweather Jr:

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[x] Shane Mosley
[x] Andre Berto
[x] Antonio Margarito
[x] Miguel Cotto
[x] Joshua Clottey
[x] Paul Williams
[x] Manny Pacquiao

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[ ] Fight Matthew Hatton
[ ] Ask Juan Manuel Marquez if he wants a rematch/big payday
[ ] Retire undefeated

 

Floyd lost to Castillo (witha hand injury but he still lost).

Calzaghe won all his fights.

Mayweather is obviously more protected.

 

What has his early career got to do with the present Mayweather? Look at the post I wrote. I said his early career defined him (infact floydettes see him still like he is at 130, fighting high rsik fights and fighting, not potshotting) but it also made him what he is today, a very good matchmaker.

When was the last time that Floyd fought a meaningful fight? People would have to go back to his early career to have one, which was a great career I admit.

 

Lets see some notables as of late for Joe :

Bika ,Kessler ,Hopkins Jones

Mayweather :

Judah Hatton ,Delahoya ,Marquez

You decide ..

 

Chavez Jr.

 

definitely mayweathers

calzaghe at least fought guys his own size rather than midgets

 

They're both scared to lose...

 

Embarassing thread. And this post suits it.

I see you conveniently left out Lacy/Manfredo

Also did someone say whats Floyds early fights got to do with him protecting his 0. Surely fighting Chavez, Castillio, Augustus, Corrles, DLH, Judah, Hatton were all dangerous fights. But of course you want to cherrypick his resume to make your point.

Boxing has a history that goes back more than 10 mins. Some of you would be wise to take a look at it once.

 

i can believe the results so far

calzaghe has fought maybe 3 prime or close to rime fighter alont the way that are of any note

 

Relax I only used a few examples .I truly beleive both of them were protected ..I mean I used who they fought in the last couple of yrs but if u want to knit pick why did u leave out Shamba Mitchel ,Arturo Gatti and Calros Bladimor off Floyd's resume??

 

But thats the thing. The further you go back in Calzaghes record the worse it gets.

Just saying that in regards to the question, I see it very difficult to say Calzaghe had a more dangerous resume.

Calzaghe def has skills and I give him credit for the Bhop who I thought outworked to a points win. Credit for taking on young lions in Lacy and Kessler who lets be honest were never as good as the media hype suggested. After that though, nothing spectacular about his record. Even Eubank was a shell of himself when he fought him.

 

Mayweather may not have fought the best opponents he could at 147 but that isn't the be all and end all of his career.

He won the WBC title off Hernandez in his 18th pro fight at just 21 years old, schooled an undefeated Corrales, his first real fight at 135 was against Castillo who hadn't lost in four years, and after a close first fight gave him a rematch (something Calzaghe never did with Reid or Hopkins). He has also beaten Judah, De La Hoya and Hatton at the higher weights, which isn't exactly that bad anyway.

I'm sorry, but Calzaghe's undefeated resume doesn't come close to Mayweather's and I can't really understand why anyone would even debate it.

 

No I agree if we were to go back from where they started Calzaghe's is worse ..Floyd from 140 or below his resume's blows out Joe's by a mile ..

 

If you're referring to Hopkins,are you aware that Hopkins lost TWICE to Jermaine Taylor a couple of years before he and JC fought?Are you referring to Roy Jones,because Jones-as JC already knew because he admitted it in his autobiography and in at least one live interview-was shot to **** when they fought.Kessler is a good fighter,but I'd hardly consider him an ATG.Calzaghe was a helluva fighter,but he never fought an ATG relatively close to his prime.