Pacman no tests, now just keep fighting Arums boys only!! OTHERS WANT CLEAN TESTS!!

Marquez is clearly not scared of him. What would u say if he also demanded random blood testing?

 

Wake up to reality Charlie, the only way Mayweather tarnishes Pacquiao's reputation is if Pacquiao tests positive to his proposed blood tests.......otherwise, Pacquiao's legacy and stock skyrockets beyond belief if he's to agree to, pass, and then beat Mayweather on Mayweather's testing terms.

We all really know Pacquiao's a cheat, because he's really doing himself a disservice by not agreeing to those tests if he's not.



If Pacquiao is really clean, the best thing he could do for himself and his country is state, "The Mayweather fight is on......Mayweather has agreed to a 14 day window. **** it......let there be testing up to the night before the fight. I'm about to show my doubters what a true champion is all about by destroying Mayweather on his testing terms...........I am clean, have been fighting clean, and I will prove it by knocking out Mayweather on his terms."


What tells me that there's a better chance of Mayweather fighting Margarito and Paul Williams in succesion than Pacquiao stating that???

 

Lets just wait to cast that stone if a fighter thats on the opposite end of a GBP fighter, insists on blood testing and GBP refuses........if that happens than yes, GBP is going to look like a bunch of hypocrites.


......yes I do know of that rumors that GBP previously had refused Mosley to get further tested on Zab Judah's demands.........we however dont know the specifics of those demands.
Was Judah willing to go through the same testing that Judah wanted Mosley to take?????
The specifics in this case are lacking.

.....but yes, I do agree that GBP has dug themselves a hole by requesting Paccquiao to legitly drug test.......from now on they'll look like bafoons if they refuse that same request from other fighters fighting the fighters under there promotion.


.....and this whole fiaso imo will benefit every clean fighter out there and boxing will be the better for it.

 

sure does

 

Wait, are they going to test Mosley and Berto? If they will do these tests on these fighters and to every fighters thereafter and become a rule, there's no way Pac will not follow it on the future.

 

Nah brah...the damage is done. The words have done what it was suppose to do. Even if PAC gave in to the tests......he's damned if he wins or damned if he looses.

You know if PAC took the tests that Floyd demanded PAC would have to give in to his own principles and go against them....a LOSS for him morally. Then if he beat Floyd...Floyd and his followers would say PAC and his PEDs are so good that he gets from the Philipines...that they were able to BEST the Olympic style blood testing.

If PAC lost.....guess what....Floyd and fans would say "SEE! Proof! PAC is doping and having do undergo the olympic tests didn't allow him to get the advangatges he had int he past".

If he moves on....like he is now...Floyd and fans say he's guility and that's why he's not giving in. It's a no win sitaution for Manny. He just has to keep it moving and wait until Floyd finally steps up....b/c the fight is gonna be made.

No one knows for sure PAC is anyting but they know from what he does and how he prepares that PAC is an incredible athlete, talent and icon. For not taking the tests he's taking a moral stance against a fighter whom spread these rumors. To give in to the demands would be like saying Floyd was right when he was in every way shape form and fashion WRONG for creating these rumors.

I see your point and I've alwasy seen it. For this reason I say Floyd is a genius. He's created a bubble to pretty much keep him at arms length from this whole mess....putting the ball or FORCING the ball in Manny's court. PAC has to do soemthing and any thing he does will not get him back his repuation.

Floyd was able to step back and let Manny squrim......forcing him to react and nothing he does will fully get him back to where he was before the false accusations started. If Floyd did this to create the drama to promote this fight he did a great job....even though it's not happening now...IT WILL HAPPEN. If Floyd did this to avoid Manny...HE DID A GREAT JOB b/c he killed the fight and he never had to say "I rather not take this risk against Manny b/c he has a really good shot at beating me". Floyd did what he did and he's taken the inital fight before the actual fight in the ring.

 

The only thing you're right about is Mayweather Jr. being a genius to demand a more stringent test.
.......and the genius part of it was that Jr. himself has never accused or even have it come out his mouth that he thought Pacquiao may be juicing.
.......Mayweather knew that he did'nt have to say it, because everyone else already suspected it.
Got to hand it to Floyd, that was brilliant! yep


.......and you're also dead wrong about Pacquiao being permanently scard, if he's a clean fighter.........

There is'nt any doubt, the man is vindicated if he takes tests and beats Mayweather's ass.

 

I love how Pac fans "logically" justify a more popular fighter using negotiating leverage to put fighters in a position where they have to accept possible foul play. But this is somehow "cool" and "acceptable"?

Talk about a **tch move! :bart

 

You know I'm right about more than just that. ....but I understand pride....and yours wont let you admit it. If Floyd didn't have to say it he would't have said it. But the fact of the matter is that NO ONE did voice any concerns about PAC being on roids until AFTER Floyd started babbling about it.....then these few "out spoken" folks hopped on the band wagon.

If these out spoken folks were so "outspoken" why did they wait until Floyd Sr and jr to start talking PEDs in reference to Manny and not do it themselves first.....Afterall they had NOTHING to loose by saying it.

Floyd on the other hand had a cool $40 Mill to loose.....and he did loose. PAC's rep is permanantly scard bro. For you to look over that is just you being blind. And that's ok. It's not the first time I felt you were turing a blind eye. But the proof is there and PAC's rep has taken a hit based on unsubstantiated rumors. Nothing PAC can do will completely reverse the damage b/c of the kind of impact this story has had.

If Many beats Floyds ass and takes the tests best believe his fans and FLoyd himself will be talking out their asses about "WHY" Manny beat Floyd and how the test were somehow not good enough to catch the "Specail PEDs" that are only available in the Philipines!:rofl

Win loose or draw PAC won't come out the winner with regards to how much overall damage his reputation has taken.

 

yep margarito definatley next at a catchweight , no tests

then retire :deal

 

Don't expect him to fight any GBP fighters anytime soon...and I think I read that Gary Shaw will make him tests if he wants to fight any of his fighters as well.

 

how is pac hiding something when he agreed to take tests. if a fighter was guilty why would he ask for any type of tests? on the other hand floyd cheated on the weights against marquez. so the known cheat is floyd mayweather, pac is innocent till proven guilty. floyd is a cheat.

 

Will the GBP fighters themselves submit to a Olympic style random blood testing for their future fights?

 

no they wont. its obvious that all the accusers have a grudge towards pac starting with floyd sr. glodenboy is pacs *****. he defetas all their fighters, humiliates oscar, and declined joining their team a few years back. this is so obvious what they are doing and i admire pac standing up against them.

anyone accusing pac with no evidence is a disgrace to the sport. we get a fighter that transcends the sport and gives us exciting fights and this is how they treat him with no evidence. pac made a point and said **** the haters.:good

 

He would probably have to retire, call it a career in boxing and enter full-time politics in Manila. He'll be a great politician. He's had a good teacher in mobster Bob Arum, a Harvard graduate Master of politics and all the cheating and fraudulent stuff involved with it. You can't deny Manny has had a good start already. Girls, 'Roids, Money-throwing rich guy... Actually, makes Floyd look like a saint.