Ok, I am an admitted floyd apologist and huge fan. I see his skill, not his resume, and how he destroys good competition. I like the guy, call me crazy. Here is how i see this situation and tell me if I am wrong? I feel like IF and it is a big IF PBF truly believes Manny is taking steroids and wants the fairest test possible that he is not to blame. We are not the ones fighting in there he is and he is entitled to a fair fight. IF he is just playing games then he is partly at fault and that is a weak move but it is just a mind game which many are used to from floyd. Pac's camp has been far from honest throughout and if he just took the test or totally denied it and was together with Roach and arum on his replies then it would have been easier. I, like many fans of PBF, and many casual observers can't help with the inconsistencies involved, feel Pac just does not want this fight right now...I Do Not think any fighter is afraid of another at this level...I do however feel they are both afraid to lose...And it is no mystery that pac stands a far greater chance of being embarassed in the ring. So now he can move on and have his allegiance of fans and fight a guy who is all of a sudden the second coming in Clottey...Clottey like most ww's has no chance vs pac or floyd...the only guy who can beat pac is the guy he will not fight? anyway u cut and spin this it sucks for the fans...but I honestly have no clue with all thast has come out HOW PBF is a coward and pac somehow has this godlike integrity??? He had the chance to take the test and be the pac we all know who is someone who takes care of disputes the old fashioned way...in the ring...this is a new pac for me....if and when they fight floyd will give him a lesson
You're giving up reason for emotional attachment. Like a couple of the guys who think roy got rabbit punched. You can like a boxer and accept their short comings. Floyd is an amazing boxer in the wrong weight class because he does not want to take on the best 147 has to offer. Every legit challenge his name comes up against he has to go on TV and explain why the match isn't happening. If floyd signs to fight Mosley, will you complain about the fact Mosley used steroids or has 5 losses? No... because floyd gave shane his stamp of approval to fight, and you know you wanted to see it from the beginning so you will be okay with it. That is why it is ******ed to be a super fan of 1 boxer.
You are totally right, this is the difference between a fan and a nuthugger. Just because it is your favorite fighter, does not mean you have to agree with everything they say or do.
ok lukeO I will apologize for our earlier spats and admit u know more than alot of people but why as a floyd fan would i complain if he fights mosely...I don't care if mosely juiced, if they fight! If not then it doesn't matter...pac is NOT fighting floyd! When it is all said and done over and over it remains that pac only had to take a blood test (which even he agreed to) 14 days before the fight then it was on from there...he didn't, I am not the only one who thinks he could and should have...and I would like to know if he is clean without a doubt as do many others, no matter how the rumor starts...and as far as being a fan, I HATE no boxer, u will never find a thread or post with me calling anyone out on there manhood or calling ortiz or cotto a quitter, i respect all of them but I do have my favorites like every other sports, just the way life is
I don't agree with everything PBF has done by any means...dude i was supposed to go to vegas for the fight...I would have won a boatload on floyd...I just still see it for 14 days to 24 days...pac would not budge...and the thing that gets me is floyd gets all this **** while pac is worshipped like a god
This is why your a true fan..... And I agree with you, Pac looks worse than Mayweather does in this whole situation... I am totally not bias , but what Pac has done really makes me raise my eyebrows.
I know... I can't watch cotto vs pac again because of how much I like Cotto. I probably hate margarito way more than necessary for the same reason. It's just stepping back and looking at a situation. No one wants to admit their favorite boxer can be human and make mistakes. I hate that Ali did what he did to frazier, I used to try to justify it but now I know it's garbage. I used to really like floyd mayweather too, but his weight fiasco with Marquez, and then just accusing pacquiao of roids for no reason? I still want to like mayweather, but can the guy just be honest in public for once? Does he have to talk **** about shane mosley and paul williams? Does he have to drag down Hopkins for losing to calzaghe? I can't support anything the guy says when he acts like that. If every boxer was Alexis Arguello, no boxing fan could complain.
I was being honest...i really think the burden is on pac...but i can understand to a point pac fans being upset too since either guy could have made this fight if they truly wanted it...but to just write it off as floyd is afraid is just stupid...makes no sense...I am sick of this whole thing I want to see it in the ring where I am more than confident floyd will win...but in nuthugging defense...why am I always more confident than floyd?
Weren't you happy Floyd won the fight without actually fighting him. Floyd was able to put Manny's legacy and achievement into question. It doesn't matter if Manny pass the test, one can always claim he cheated because not all steroids can be detected. If Floyd really wants the fight, he could have accepted the 24 days cut off if he really want to fight, but he didn't. Do you honestly think 3 weeks of no blood testing but with urine testing will improve or take one's boxing skills to another level? Both want to impose their will over another and no one wants to budge. Both are at fault here so don't single out Manny.
there are plenty of fans who aren't nuthuggers that agree with both sides...bottom line...get it done...who cares bout clottey and whoever PBF fights....most should care about who wins between them
they are both at fault and everything u say or I can be turned around ....which is why i too want it in the ring...manny's legacy does not have to be in question...floyd's already is anyway by the way he acts....it is not like manny to avoid a test like this and have his legacy tainted...14 days is plenty of time...if he doesn't want to give in then it is his prerogative...I thought freddie said 5 days would be good
Pacman afraid of losing??? Really??? Have you seen how Pacman fights?? If so, can you honestly say he is afraid of losing?? He puts on a great performance everytime he fights even if he knows he is already winning. Think about this: Pacman has a few loses already and we've seen Floyd brag about his "0" just about anywhere and you still think Pacman is the one afraid of losing??? Come on man....