Pacman no tests, now just keep fighting Arums boys only!! OTHERS WANT CLEAN TESTS!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by elguapo, Jan 9, 2010.


  1. they do. otherwise, they wouldnt be banned, moron. they help u recover faster and gain more lean muscle.
     
  2. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tell that to Vargas.
     
  3. r2d2

    r2d2 HATERS GONNA HATE! Full Member

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    Wrong, arum didnt know the 14 days window until team mayweather open their mouth on the media.
     
  4. zangetsu

    zangetsu Getsuga Tenshou Full Member

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    what's the difference with pain relievers and the so-called steroids that 'recover faster'?


    everytime i think about steroids, the first thing comes in my mind are bodybuilders..


    however i do agree with you that some substances are banned. but not all of them.


    and if they were BANNED, why didn't NSAC applied appropriate tests before?


    why wait for PBF to request 'blood testing' ?


    shouldn't the 'blood testing' be mandatory?
     
  5. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd uses injections to numb his hands. If that aint an advantage, I don't know what is. That is a bigger advantage then steroids. Recovering from a painful punch or punch thrown is part of the game. Floyd is a cheater.
     
  6. you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are u? how in the world will steroids improve your chin?
     
  7. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tell that to Floyd Sr. The whole basis of his accusation is that Manny took Cottos big shots and did not even flinch. According to Sr. It must've been the roids. And you and your low i.q. buddies bought it hook line and sinker.
     
  8. zangetsu

    zangetsu Getsuga Tenshou Full Member

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    If you say steroids help BUILD up muscles to recover faster, shouldn't the Olympic-style blood test be on the TRAINING and not so close to FIGHT NIGHT?


    In training, you're actually honing and improving your physical abilities and the mindset for fight right?
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is exactly the case. Listing to the interview with Victor Conte at a site that "talks boxing" and he breaks down exactly what the issue is.

    Paraphrasing, he says that you don't benefit from steroids on steroids. The benefit comes AFTER you are off. Basically while on your muscles heal faster and absorb nutrients so you are tight and hard. When you are done your muscles return to normal with all the benefit of extra training.

    He also stated that HGH is only detectable by blood test by I believe 36 hours. He says all a fighter would do is not answer the door to avoid the test so that is probably not what FMJ is looking for.

    The substance they are checking for is EPO. 24 days is more than enough time. He said it would provide a devastating advantage especially in later rounds.

    Straight from The King of Juice himself.
     
  10. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think these fools listen to common sense.
     
  11. i dont know how olympic-style testing works but i do know that floyd wanted there to be random testing throughout the training process. manny rejected those requests. I wonder why. regardless of any of that, manny has an unbelievable chin. we all know he's good. what we dont know is if PEDs have helped him.
     
  12. zangetsu

    zangetsu Getsuga Tenshou Full Member

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    So you're saying all this time NSAC is an incompetent athletic commission because they don't do blood work?

    Why would there be an NSAC in the first place if they don't do "STRICT STERIODS TESTING"?

    What is the purpose of NSAC?
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would think that it would be an advantage to a fighter using pain killers.........specifically if it were to be injected right to the hands as is the case with Mayweather.
    The difference however is that Mayweather does'nt hide the fact he's doing it, and the commisions to which he has fought under allow it.

    ......why? I dont know. I dont know how much of an advantage that Mayweather would have for example, as he sticks strictly to boxing.
    Mayweather would be a fighter I would say could funtion at the same level without the pain killers, as they're not performance enhancers but really just numb the pain on his already fragile hands.


    I do think that fighters should not be allowed to inject painkillers into any part of their body, but get it right, they're not performance enhancers. A painkiller does not help you recover,from a workout and better you physically for performance, in fact they just temporarily mask the pain of an injury that may very well get worse for having masked the pain over.

    Mayweather has been allowed to use the pain killers, so he's not cheating.
    Manny Pacquiao if he is using PED's, which it looks like he is.....he's cheating.
     
  14. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Manny approved of RANDOM drug testing just not within 24 days. I understand the psychology of not wanting drug drawn too close to the fight. I myself don't like giving blood and even if it does nothing to me, mentally, I feel my body has gotten weaker. You need to be 100% if you step in that ring specially at the highest level. Manny agreed above and beyond what is required which is a urine analysis (better than a blood test) any time up the fight, random blood tests, anytime except within 24 days of the fight and right after the fight. Random tests. If Manny was doin roids he would be doin it heavily the first month of training anyway unless "philipine roids" are like spinach and make him popeye the moment he pops em. LOL
     
  15. Dominicano

    Dominicano Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Again your speculating. Manny aint hiding ****. All the common sense in the world points to manny being innocent and that is from a former Floyd nuthugger. I look at the facts without being biased. Did you always hate manny?