Jermain Taylor was robbed.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Jan 12, 2010.


  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Taking some time to think things over rather than reacting in the heat of emotion actually would indicate that this is a considered decision.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    So they're experts then? We'll excluse his team (as they probably had less direct influence on him anyway). His loved ones, simple Arkansas folks, they know enough about boxing to say that challenging Ward made him a danger to himself? Their emotions weren't incensed at all by what people said about Taylor being headed for Ali territory online, in print, etc? Please.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    A lot of time. Last month he released a statement saying he was in thick or thin. Was he still in the heat of the moment last month? :think
     
  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your wrong.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Taylor has a FAR better chance than either of them. If he lost to Ward, then yes by all means give yourself an honorable discharge from the sport rather than face a puncher like Kessler for no good reason (0-2 in the first two rounds pretty much guaranteeing he wouldn't advance). Facing Ward is what Taylor wanted, and the world said "No" deciding for him that he didn't have that win in him - now we'll never know. And for what? What was prevented? Andre Ward wasn't going to give him brain damage. Taylor isn't a punching bag, he's on the fast and slick side himself. He could have not only been competitive and avoided taking too much punishment in giving a good account of himself against Ward in a losing effort on the cards - he could have possibly won.
     
  6. Gneus7

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    I agree with that. Taylor had a better chance than his replacements. better chance than most actually
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Then why is it okay that everyone (from DiBella, to boxing writers, to random schmucks on Twitter) bullied Jermain into changing his mind?

    I'm not saying his relatives were browsing ESPN.com and saw the poll with 60% of respondents saying he should retire and immediately leapt to the phone to implore him to quit because the internet commanded it, but seeing things like that at every turn and having constant reminders of and exaggerations of the nature of his knockout losses (in the case of the first two, come from behind knockouts in what were winning efforts for Jermain up until then) certainly didn't do wonders for their - or his - confidence. My feeling is that it probably hurt quite a bit and ultimately did play a part in this decision.
     
  8. Finn73

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    Imho it's not a good decision. He had the chance to win a title in his very next fight against a guy who is not exactly known as a big puncher. He would've had a decent chance to win the fight. If he would've lost the Ward fight, then it would've been a good moment to leave the tournament.
     
  9. Cobbler

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    That's quite patronising. But you can't have it both ways. Apparantly they know nothing about boxing but spend enough time reading the views of armchair boxing fans to be brainwashed by them?
     
  10. Vantage_West

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    llove how most of yall have gatti as there avatar while they jack on about how taylor is finished
     
  11. knotty150

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    How on earth have you come to this conclusion? You've argued in other posts in this thread that he was railroaded by promoters, doctors etc, and I agree to a certain extent that that may well be the case, but the way you've worded it here, you're blaming boxing fans, but not yourself?

    Firstly, your wrong to blame boxing fans. If you've kept up to date on these forums you'd have seen that a great deal of people thought Taylor stood a very much legitimate chance against Ward, giving him the biggest chance against Ward in the tournament then they would anything else. Yet somehow, it's all our responsibility that Taylor's retired? We, the boxing fans are responsible for instilling a lack of faith in himself, even though many of us do favor his chances against Ward?

    I'm not having a pop or anything chief, I'm an objective poster and I don't start arguments on forums, but in posting what you have, I personally feel as though you've insulted everyone on these forums...

    And just for the record, I think Taylor has made the right decision in retiring. Regardless of how much of a chance he stood against Ward, he's taken a lot of punishment in recent fights, and in this sport you shouldn't take chances with your health, especially when the competition is so high.
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    If you googled Jermain Taylor in the last few months it wasn't hard to come by dramatic statements about how "done" and fragile he is.
     
  13. 1lehudson

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    Ward is the biggest man that Taylor would have ever faced to this point in his career, all this talk about Ward not being a puncher is bull****, its not his game, he doesnt throw power shots, that doesnt mean that he cant hit hard.

    Taylor should have never been in the super-six to start with, many had issues with it from the start, its no as if him getting waxed by AA started people to say that he shouldnt be in this thing.

    For some reason people like the TS seems to think that Taylor would have been somekind of style issue for Ward, when if you look at Taylors history it would tell you that Taylor was going to have a tough time with Ward, look at his fights with Wright and Spinks, both are much smaller slower fighters then Ward many felt that both beat a prime pre-knocked out Taylor. He had very little shot at beatting Ward.

    This is a good thing for Taylor to be out, if he has any chance of returning to championship level boxing he needs to take a step back, and rebuild his confidence by fighting lesser fighters.

    IM truely sad as a boxing fan that People like the thread starter would like to see this guy fight on at this level just on the slight chance that he could beat Ward which is what this thread is all about, it has nothing to do with the wanting to see Taylor do well. Anyone that was thinking aobut Taylor the MAN would know that him pulling out is the best thing for him as a MAN and as a boxer. Another bad lose would end his career. Time to hit the reset, fight some lesser guys and rebuild his confidence.
     
  14. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's a grown ass man. If he really wanted to he could have ignored the fans/team/family or whoever u think influenced him. Also if he quit because thats what his loved ones wanted then fair play 2 him. Thats an honourable thing 2 do. Nuff respect.
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    If I was a member of his family (even if I were from Arkansas and so, apparantly, simple) and I wanted to know how he was doing, I'd probably ask, rather than googling it....