Jermain Taylor was robbed.

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Intentional, I normally find you a very intelligent poster, but you are being inane


Taylor had lost 4 of his last 5, 3 by vicious KO, had been brutally knocked out in his last 2 fights, knocked out cold by Abraham, blasted to the floor by Froch, and had been KOed by Pavlik in their first fight.


With all the recent data and research that has come out on the dangers of concussions and head trauma, do you really believe it was a valid decision for Taylor to CONTINUE in the tournament, and potentially risk his long term health and his life?


The man was a world champion, something 99% of boxers will never be. He was Undisputed, he fought the best, he was in many good fights.

He should retire, no one will think badly of his decision.

 

And this is the reason that the TS wanted to see him fight on. Its not about Taylor, he could give two ****s about Taylor. He simply wants to see Ward lose a fight knowing that Froch, AA, and Dirrell have less of a chance then Taylor at giving Ward that L that they want for him so badly. Taylor has the combination of speed and power along with reach that none of the other fighters in the super-six has. Problem is Taylor doesnt have the right mindset to keep fighting high level fighters at this time. His comments after the AA fight is what sealed it for me, when he said "It is what I expected, I always except the worst and hope for the best" That is the comments of a beatten fighter, a guy that doesnt have the confidence to fight on in something like this were your fighting top level guys every time out.

 

for what it's worth i also agree that taylor still had something to offer this tournament.

it seems to be the way these days someone gets knocked out and as they are called to retire...well excuse me this is the ****ing fight game ( put hatton in that bracket )!!!

i see no harm in him fighting ward at all , in fact i see ward as possibly a good fight for taylor, style wise i don't see ward has the power that taylors previous ko oponents have had. i don't want to see him brain dead obviously but come on i think his record over his last 4/5 fights could well have been very different and would there be all this call for him to retire ?

 

Yeah, would have liked him to fight on aswell.
I'd only be fufiled when he's punch drunk and slurring like Holy and Jones Jr.......................

 

Taylor's last half decent performance was against Winky Wright in 2006. He has serious stamina problem's and if he didn't win a fight within the first 5 rounds, he was in serious danger of getting badly hurt.

He's changed trainers and still he has the same issues.

The OP's point is bull**** because the majority of Boxing fans would have been willing Taylor to win (taking away the support for Ward given he's undefeated etc.) everybody loves and underdog.

The guy is better calling it a day, he can't be short of a few quid, saying that i'm surprised i thought he would have given it one more shot, personally i would have like to seen him have one last crack as he wasn't triying to rebuild a career, he has a shot at a World Title in what would have been his next fight.

I respect his decison though, people can sit here and give their opinions all day, only Jermain Taylor knows his own body and how much heart he has left

 

i see where you are coming from about thinking he should hang'em up. can't argue w/ that :good

but he looked damn good in the second pav fight and he was seconds away from beating an undefeated smw champ...he was ahead on the cards. he got stopped by aa but he was at least competitive in that fight.

 

Agreed. Taylor has suffered devastating knockouts and shown signs of frontal lobe damage -- there was a recent story that an ambulance had to be called after one of them because of his erratic behavior in the locker room -- and absolutely needs to step away while he still can.

He also was not allowed to fly back from Europe for a week and reportedly failed at least two brain scans in Germany before they'd release him from the hospital.

He was the biggest money maker in DiBella's stable and DiBella dropped him. What does that tell you? Haymon also wanted him to step away. When the people closest to him, with the most information, are begging him to stop even when there is money to be made, that's a pretty clear indication that something bad is going on.

Do we really need another sad case of a guy going on way too long? I'm a Taylor fan who has pulled for him from the beginning, and to me this is great news. I hope Jermain lives the good life and enjoys time with his family.

 

He was competitive, but AA is a notorious slow starter, credit where credit is due he did perform well, but psychologically as well as physically, he can't get through a fight. With a mindset like that when your facing top fighters fight afer fight, it's a dangerous game if you doubt yourself and it's clear to see that's his main problem.

I don't know how much roadwork he puts in or whether he just has a natural stamina problem, but given he doesn't throw a lot of punches in the chance of ending fights quickly, then if your going the distance more often than not which is more likely in his case, you need to have enough in the tank to get there.

 

If you were a fan of Taylor's you would know that his mind isnt on boxing, he has some things going on in his personal life that wont allow him to put his full focus on boxing, along with having been knocked out in three of 6 fights.

The things in his personal life Im not going to go into but I will give a hint Google his name along with anne pressly and you will get an idea.

Now if your going to set in here and say that you didnt pick and back Kessler to win this super-six I will outright call you a liar. If you having said that you felt that Taylor had the best shot at beatting Ward I will do it once again.

I read most of the thread on this site, and I remember what people say. You wanting Taylor to win vs Ward doesnt mean that you are a fan, not when you have been proven wrong to this point about what would happen in this thing, Taylor winning would go along way in making your predictions of the super-six come true.

The guy retired, or dropped out, not really sure which one. But is by far the best thing that he could have done for himself and his family. And at the end of the day is was his chioce, he was contracted to fight on, and if he wanted to none involved could have stopped him. My guess is his family and friends agreed with most of the fans that wanted to see him end it. This isnt basketball, sometimes thing that happen in a boxing ring cant be fixed or undone. I dont want to see that for Jermain. Its better this way, he can walk away healthy and rich.

 

I think Taylor vs Bute will be on HBO april 17...

 

Are you seriously trying to guilt us over caring about not wanting to see another one of our boxers in a seriously bad spot?

I like Jermaine Taylor. I watched him get KO'd viciously by Kelly Pavlik which included him slumped over in the corner like he had gotten hit with a shotgun.

Then I watched him get blasted out by Froch. If your argument was exhaustion then that's fine, I won't argue he wasn't tired. I also think we need to not pretend like he wasn't getting rocked in round 11. He didn't get tired magically, he got tired because Froch sapped him of everything he had.

Then I watched him get KILLED by Arthur Abraham. We're talking knock out of the year type stuff.

I'm sorry but that's three big KOs too many for me to want to see him continue on. Especially a guy with questionable mental toughness like Jermaine.

As for Ward not having KO power, you really think it matters at this point? Whether Ward battered him over 12 rounds or whether he was KTFO, he's still going to take a **** load of damage in some capacity. Ward has heavy hands, he cut up Kess and I've seen him knock out people before with powerful shots. Ward could've easily battered him for 12 rounds and put him in terrible shape.

The quality of the Pick Six tournament is above Jermaine Taylor at this point in time.

 

taylor had a great career man- let him go gracefully. its fans like u that encourage a guy like taylor to go back and kill himself. in the end- the guy was a champion - and he took more scalps than he got taken. thats all a man can ask for- that at the end- you take more than gets taken. that u give more than u take- rather.
let him move on and enjoy his children- and more importantly let his family enjoy a fully functioning taylor.