Razor Ruddock vs Ike Ibeabuchi

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  1. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Ike looked formidable in rolling over Chris Byrd like a mack truck and warred with Tua on even terms gaining the nod in a crowd-pleaser... Ruddock did a similar demolition job on an aging Michael Dokes that Ike did on a young Chris Byrd.... Ruddock almost had Tommy Morrison out of there before eating a lefthook from hell... Some say that he should have been allowed to continue, among those being Razor himself, who was upset with the stoppage.... Ruddock also scored an impressive kayo of Bonecrusher Smith and put in two quality performances (both in losing efforts of course) against the ferocious Mike Tyson.

    I would have made sure not to miss this one.... Pure fireworks here.
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Epic match-up. This would be a barn burner. I personally don't think Ike had the one punch to put Prime Razor away without an argument. I do see Razor going down multiple times, and I see huge left hands bouncing off Ike's chin in a really action packed and fast paced Heavyweight fight. Ike either wins by decision, curtosey of many knockdowns, or he stops Razor later. He's too busy, takes too good of shot, and was build like a rock. What a fight though, I'd pay for ringside seats.
     
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  3. anarci

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    Good analogy Addie thats pretty much how i see it but i think Ike would stop him in 9.
     
  4. Sardu

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    Does anyone know what happened when Ruddock suffered his first loss against Dave Jaco by 8 round stoppage.... Jaco was one tough cookie but it seems almost Incomprehensible that he would have been able to beat Ruddock... Was it due to an injury? Just curious thanks.
     
  5. Addie

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    I've not seen it, but I think his earlier losses were just learning experiences. He was untapped potential, check him out against Weaver. His jab was awesome, and had good handspeed for a big man, built like an aztec statue too. Then watch him in with Tyson, all he wanted to do was catch him with a left hand and that's what pretty much stopped him progressing. He abandoned his jab, and his all round skills. I still love to watch him, probably my favorite Heavyweight besides Bowe and Ali. I love his showing in Tyson II, what a showing of heart.
     
  6. Sardu

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    Ruddock was never dull - NEVER!!! That is why he is remembered so fondly even now IMO... The current division could use some Ruddocks and ibeabuchis.... Those guys came to fight!
     
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  7. mattdonnellon

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    I think he gassed out against Jaco, something like an asthma attack...or maybe I'm crazy
     
  8. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Ah yes, you have refreshed my memory sir! It was indeed an asthma attack that caused Ruddock to lose that fight... I recall hearing that some years ago thanks!
     
  9. lefthook31

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    Ibeabuchi hadnt beaten a fighter like Ruddock yet. Ruddock could actually use his left jab and uppercut to keep a fighter at range. Would have been an interesting fight. I was high on Ike, and after Byrd I think he was ready for anyone, but there was talk he was struggling with the taller outside boxers in the gym, specifically Kirk Johnson, his stablemate.
     
  10. Addie

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    'Could' being the operative word. If we're talking prime for prime, then Ruddock actually got further as a one handed fighter than he did as a smart boxer, which is what he looked like on his way up. As soon as he realized that his left hand could knockdown walls, he was always looking for the knockout. Dokes was giving him a tough time before he landed the shot that almost killed him. That was literally ALL he was doing in the Tyson fights. Make no mistake about it, Ruddock ain't jabbin' and movin' here, he's bombing with the left hook.
     
  11. lefthook31

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    Ike wasnt as seasoned as you might think. His approach to Tua was raw and lacked strategy, and his fight with Byrd was a repeat of the same combo until it paid off. Ibeabuchi hadnt reached his prime yet, nor was he as savvy or experienced as Ruddock was at his best. Ike was ready, but still unproven.
     
  12. Addie

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    ....So? Ike's toughness, power, and stamina alone are enough to win this fight. There was nothing saavy about Ruddock, he was a banger. He was in there to knock you out with every shot he threw. He's up against an immovable object in Ike, who would be setting a very high pace. Doesn't matter if he was the finished article or not, we saw how Ike dealt with arguably the definitive Heavyweight hitter of the last 20 years. He beat the man at his own game, no way is Ruddock beating that Ike.
     
  13. lefthook31

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    There was less substance to Tua. Different type of style. Ruddock was sneaky with the counter uppercut and hook, and threw it as more of a counter against fighters coming forward.
    Ike had 20 fights, yeah Ike stood up to Tua, but so did Jeff Wooden in a very competitive fight. Not saying Ruddock wins, but its no cakewalk for Ike either, and just because he took some of Tua's best shots, doesnt mean he doesnt get hurt or held at bay by a fighter who doesnt only come forward like Tua did.
     
  14. Addie

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    I'm not doing the round in circle thing with you again. I know how stubborn you are. Ruddock threw counters, but predictable ones, and there wasn't a lot of method to his work other than, "This is to knock you the **** out". Won't get the job done against Ike, he took Tua's best, he'll take Ruddock's best. I didn't say it was a cakewalk, I said it'll be a great fight...but I don't see how Ruddock wins.
     
  15. Cachibatches

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    He claimed an asthma attack.

    POST SCRIPT: The source is an interview that was either in KO magazine or its sister publication boxing 89- I forget.