A question for everyone that I asked in a different thread...

PBF gave numerous concessions to Pac's advantage. He gave him the gloves, he gave him the $10 million per pound penatly clause which you could call a mental edge for Pac. What if PBF gets sick in training or a minor injury and has anxiety over whether he can make the weight cause he missed training and owes 10 million? That is ridiculous but you know what? PBF said **** it lets fight its fine.


If Pac is so fragile that he is scared going into a fight because he losses confidence from having a needle ***** half a month away from the fight (thats 336 hours of recovery time) then he should have picked a different career path because that is down right cowardly.

 

You are looking at this all wrong. Think of it this way... which I have said before.

Lets say that Pac takes a blood test 14 days out from the fight. First of all... this is an EXTREMELY crucial part of the training camp. Now, whether it be mental or physical Roach has already said that he loses back for about 4 days after he gives blood beacuse Pac doesn't feel well. Despite what a lot of you love to say... this is VERY common. So... what you would end up with is Pac finishing off the most important part of his training camp while he doesn't feel near his best. Pac would then enter into the winding/cooling down faze (week of the fight) of his training having just finished up his training on a bad note. Mentally... that would hurt Pac coming into the ring as you ALWAYS want to finish your training strong. Seems pretty damn logical to me why Pac wouldn't want to give up such a huge mental disadvantage, and come into such a huge fight while not feeling like he had his best training camp and isn't fully prepared. I don't know why any true boxing fan on earth would want this to happen. However... I sure as hell know why Floyd would.

 

If 3 blood tests plus one right after the fight,60 urines tests,all of this in two months isnt enough to get that coward to face Pac nothing will.

And this would be an easy fight according to the coward i could only imagine what he would ask for if he tought it would be a hard fight.

Just retire already you ****ing coward and let the real fighters fight.

 

why are using 16 as a baseline? i gained about 30 lbs from 16 to 19 and its because i was growing

 

The blood test post fight which many seems to ignore conveniently is proof why Floyd is the one who ducked Pac.

 

Manny legs have gotten bigger as well. Don't know exactly how much it affects his weight and ability to deliver harder punches, but it definitely a factor.

 

"Let's all deliberately act dumb in defense of Pacquiao."

 

If he's blood tested 14 days, then again after the fight, what is there that Pac can take to enhance his performance on fight night???

Don't forget that he agrees to give urine sample all the way through.

Now...why can't Floyd agree to a 24 days blood test cutoff because there is another blood test after the fight and Pac's urine can always be tested everyday?

 

Of course Im not looking at it the right way cause Im not looking at it your way PBF has to take the same ****ing test. And when PBF was saying up until fight day then 2 days before... Roach was saying he needs 5 days before the fight. Roach never said anything about during crucial part of training that occured after Floyd offered them 14 days. As I said every time Floyd gave them a concession they come up with a new reason. And I listed multiple complaints made by Pac's side with multiple concessions by PBF to fix those complaints but then it was always a new excuse. This is just their very final excuse and negotiations ended at that point when Arum ended it. This was going on for more than a month.


Finally Floyd wanted random testing up until a specified number of days before the fight. This eventually got turned into non random by Pac's side which was offering tests on specified days (which is beneficial for someone on roids). On a random testing schedule the last test does not have to be on 14 days it could be farther away from the fight. But Pacs side moved talks away from random testing and PBF's side didnt even make any complaints with that.

 

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you make out like only one fighter was willing to walk away from millions. floyd walked out on millions through speculation. he walked out on 40 mil because he wouldn't agree to tests after the fight and 24 days before against a fighter with an innocent record. when you look at it like that it sounds dumb too.

 

Gave him the gloves? This **** kills me. You realize that 8 oz gloves are what is SUPPOSED to be worn in fights 147 and below in Nevada don't you? So... Floyd is giving in by following the rules?atsch

Nobody who has watched a lick of boxing over the last 5 years believes that Floyd is any danger of weighing in at over 147 pounds. C'mon... you are making yourself look silly here. Floyd probably weighs about 149 pounds right now walking around. The man enters the ring on fight night between 147-149... you act like he has to cut weight or something. I think this was a stupid clause... but it was just a pathetic attempt for Arum to feel like he is somehow negotiating strongly in Pac's favor because that is his job. However...definitely not anything that would give either fighter a mental edge as Floyd sure as hell doesn't have to worry about making the 147 lb limit. Floyd mad NO concessions. People were on here the other day talking about Floyd conceding to the fight being at 147 pounds... as if Floyd is a natural middleweight now or something.:rofl Floyd is fighting at his own weight class.... which is he has been at longer than Pac. He is also simply using the gloves that are supposed to be used for that weight. Those aren't concessions.

 

PBF wanted until the night before. Pac wanted 30 days. Pac moved down to 24 days in his negations while PBF moved up to 14 days. So who was giving more of a concession?

 

Nevada is the one that went to 10oz noob. There was a big hoopla over that when it happened a few years back. And PBF wanted and favored the 10oz as they benefit him because he has the hand problems. But he gave Pac the 8oz gloves which benefit Pac not PBF. He could have bitched and said "oh but Nevada recommends 10oz gloves" but he didnt.
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/214200/ko-glove


And yes 10 million a pound is stupid you said it yourself. It is very unlikely he has a problem but it is an extrodinary amount of money. Manny asked for an amount that has never been asked for in history per pound. So while it is unlikely he does have that looming over him. He could get sick and loose half of the money he makes from the fight. But floyd agreed to it as he knew it was unlikely to happen. If pac was clean and knew he wouldnt test positive he would have been willing to go beyond and above to satisfy it like PBF did with the weight. $10 million a pound IS a concession because that is an unprecedented level of fine.

 

Do you understand that some people react to giving blood differently? Do you also understand the simple fact that Pac didn't need to keep being bullied and pushed around by Floyd ****ing Mayweather? Just because Floyd and his ****in' Dad make up some bull**** excuse as to why Pac is so good... he is supposed to bow to them and let them dictate how his entire training camp will be? When he will feel 100%... when he will be giving blood tests.... ect... **** them... it's bull**** and it's pathetic. It's rather obvious to me that Floyd ALWAYS finds a reason why these fights that everyone wants to see him take can't or shouldn't happen. I can't believe that there are still people out there making excuses for this ongoing bull****. You show Floyd a tough fight, and he will definitely find a reason why that fight can't or shouldn't take place.