FIGHT Record vs FIGHT Record

Don't really know what the weights were on fight night but Oscar is bigger than Pea.

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I don't see the relevance? That just goes to show how skilled Whitaker was. Are you trying to insinutate that he was a natural JMW, or even fit the weight at all? He was bloated and pudgy against Vasquez, and looked far removed from the fighter he was.

He was still more of a natural Welterweight than at any other weight class he fought in. That was his ideal weight, though he may have been better from a head to head perspective at 140 given his physical attributes and the lack of depth in comparison to Welterweight.

How can I say he was the bigger man? Because I've seen the fight and compared the two, that's how. I think you might be the only person in the entire history of Earth that's ever tried to insinuate that Pea was bigger or that they were even the same size. Oscar held a clear natural size advantage.

Two totally different styles. Oscar was on the backfoot facing a fighter whose footwork was his main weakness in the Trinidad fight. Against Whitaker, he was fighting in ring centre for the majority of the fight against a defensive slickster and a pure boxing master. Of course he's going to look a better boxer against the former.

 

You have to take into consideration why it is that Pea was weighing so much. When guys get older, it's harder to make weights. Measure both guys at what weight they were in their prime. Prime for Prime Oscar is a welterweight and Pea is a lightweight.

Oscar is a naturally bigger man.

 

I think that he had a size and strength advantage yes. I don't think that a size and strength advantage is really a factor against pernell because pernell is not a big physical fighter and never was even at lower weights.

 

Oscars head looks photoshopped on

 

So you aren't going to come out and say "DLH is better than PBF and MP", why exactly? It couldn't be because if you said it like that, you wouldn't be able to get past the third word in that sentence before scornful laughter drowned you out. Surely not.

 

I didn't know that was threatening. More like an analogy how moronic you are. And get this into ur head......we don't need to justify anything, you delusional Mayweather fans are the ones who should justify why we should believe your rumors, and for the past month not one shred of evidence was presented to corraborate your statement. You even grasp at straw with Moorer and he came back and bitchlapped your gossipy checks right off the bat. Bottom line you are nothing but a crybaby, forcing us to debate on nothing but speculation so as to give credibility to your baseless ranting. GTFO!

 

Castillo and Corrales? Are you serious?

 

here is substance....floyd moved up gave ODLH every advantage and beat him...then pac moved up and ****ing destroyed him....they are both better than delahoya....oscar has 2 really good wins, quartey and vargas and are they THAT good or am I missing some? mosely...no hopkins...hell no tito...no but I thought he did ummmm anyone? he has fought the best though and always been competitive....oh sweet pea....yeah 3 good wins

 

are you serious...corrales was a beast and he ****ing destroyed him and JLC was the BEST lw and he beat him twice...then he beat delahoya and hatton....and floyd has not squeaked out decisions...he has clearly won all but 1 which he then won easy

 

And that just shot down your arguement. No sane person here will acknowledge Barrera was past prime. Off peak maybe, still in prime. And JCC was shot. Shotter than Morales. You always argue that Morales was shot at the tender age of 29 since he has lots of war. Using your logic well what abt Chavez who had 99 fights?

There are also things like how you beat your opponent, dominance during your prime and how you pushed the envelope. Oscar's reign didn't last very long, he didn't show the aura of invincibility, the technical masterclass of Mayweather or the brutal efficiency of Pacquiao. He has a lot of close fights, he has not separated himself against the competition.

Oscar's resume is top notch, but credit is given for winning, ring dominance, and carrer-defining fights. When you think of DLH you think about how close he won the Trinidad fight. Almost but not quite. That is how he will be perceived. Almost there, but failed by an inch.

 

We are talking about GREAT fighters. A FMJ fan will never understand it it seems.