Actor on set of Big Boss confirmed a fight with Bruce Lee with a thaiboxer

Gung Fu, YOU ARE A CLASSICAL NUTHUGGER. When Joe Lewis met Lee he was already an accomplished fighter and champion. He and Lee separated ways because Lee wanted him to tell the media that Lee was his trainer, and SINCE THAT WAS UNTRUE, LEWIS REFUSED TO DO IT. You have a problem with people that dont feel like masturbating while watching Lee movies and so you insult everyone. I have forgotten more about Lee and martial arts than you will ever be able to learn. Dont know why you get so upset. noone here is trying to stop you from jacking off watching Lee, so dont get so upset.

 

I not trying to prove no point to anybody, you are all entitled to your own opinion, but to discredit a man that is in the history books and to competely try to re-do the facts and unsaid what has been said about Bruce Lee would be like shooting yourself in the foot and if your a true MMA fan it'll be like shooting both you and your own grandpa in the foot. Bruce is the godfather of MMA. He was the legendary relvoutionist that was killed for his conviction of enriching everybody and not exclusively to China the secrets and true art of fighting. To hate or show any negatively towards him is ignorance at its greatest.

 

You guys seem to be pretty angrily entrenched but here is my two cents:

If you resurrected a prime Bruce Lee and put him in a fight with BJ Penn, BJ Penn would win. But the reason for this is just that BJ has had some 30 years of martial arts progression to work with. If Lee had seen what techniques were becoming effective, what the rest of the world had to offer, he would have extrapolated from each what was best and absorbed it. That's what he did. And with the same knowledge that BJ Penn has, I have no doubt Lee would have used it better.

Lee was too fast. Way too fast. I expect that his defence would be found wanting, and that footage of him hitting the heavy bag kinda shows that, with his hands low and his chin exposed. But I honestly don't think you would be able to defend yourself against his speed when he attacked.

I won't even bother commenting on his insane kicking ability.

Also, two absolutely horrendous comments:

1. The guy with the David Haye avatar saying that he could one inch punch someone into a seated position like Lee does. (You can't)

2. Same guy also calling Bruce Lee a poor man's Cung Le. That is just downright disrespectful, man.

 

Nothing like assuming that he would be best in the world if he just trained BJJ.
There is no poof for that but hey he was in movies so he should be able to do it.

 

Gah. Never mind. What's the point. This is my first foray over to the MMA forum from the boxing one. Not sure why I bothered. Sorry for interrupting proceedings over here.

 

There is no point to this thread anymore. Bruce Lee was very athletic, and incredibly dedicated, but trying to extrapolate the very meagre evidence for his real fighting ability is impossible, hence a thread of conjecture filled ranting from both sides. The only sensible view in a situation deviod of tangible evidence is one that remains open-minded.

 

I think everyone can agree on that... He had to compete to prove himself as a fighter, but because of his legacy he can't be dismissed as a individual who could not fight.

 

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bruce lee was not incredibly dedicated and has no legacy. He was in martial arts movies and was flexible/aerobic.

He was also on steroids, smoked weed, and believed in a bunch of psuedo-scientific bull**** like running electricity through your body. 'His' philosophy is simply taoism right from the book. Going into martial arts and saying 'just use what works' is no great feat. The tricks he did at martial arts demonstrations were tricks I see at all kinds of demonstrations. His punching on that 40 lb bag was atrocious. He never fought anyone who was anyone. 'oh wait he fought a thaiboxer' So I guess everyone who has fought some guy who takes thai-boxing lessons is an invincible fighting god?

His fanboys are wrapped up in a fantasy that the fighting in the movies was somehow realistic.

I will.

As someone who trained at the olympic training center, alongside the US and spanish olympic team, under olympic coaches, under 5 different taekwondo world champions at different points, and has been to international Taekwondo tournaments I can comment on his kicking ability.

And my analysis is meh. He would be too slow to win at the national level, and his techique is mediocre at best.

 

Also his "deep philosophical thoughts" are all rehashed and empty.

Hard to think of a another human being overrated in so many ways.

 

Why not? If I simply studied harder, I would have been a medical doctor.

WELL...Perhaps not!

 

Holy crap! You have an intensive TKD training resume. Did you guys have much freedom at the Olympic training center or did your coaches pretty much keep you lockdown and accounted for 24/7, Soviet style???

 

My resume is very good, even better than that in some ways, but I am not a high level competitor. I hope to be some day. The camp was run by the olympic coaches, but I am not on the national/olympic team, It was an athlete development camp. Very intense, three workouts a day. There was a early curfew like 10:00 and youd be damned if you were late to practice.

My day went like this (if I recall properly)
Conditioning 8:00-9:30
Eat till my jaw froze up
Shower
Sleep
Technical practice 11:00-1:00
Eat
shower
sleep
Sparring practice 2:30-4:30
Eat
Study film/group discussion
eat again
sleep like a brick
repeat

All while drinking water nonstop and still feeling dehydrated. This was the main OTC in colorado springs way up in the mountains so the air was thin and desert dry.

Sometimes when we trained Soome high level Judokas would be training across the gym. Amazing throws. I got to talk to some of them, it was a great experience. I got a picture with some boxing coaches, and talked to a wrestling coach. Our training hall was across the way from the swimming pool where there were swimmers swimming before, during, and after our practices. The same people I think. The dorms were ok I guess.

The best thing was the food. All you can eat, wholesome, and free. I can't believe how much I ate a day. 4 full meals a day and snacks in between.

We also watched the US olympic/national and spanish national Taekwondo teams training. People moving so fast I couldnt believe my eyes, and ive seen fast kickers before.

Great experince, if you can ever get into an athlete development camp for your sport I highly reccomend it.

 

Because it never happened. Seriously - Thai boxing is the national sport of Thailand and any bout or a hint of a bout involving one of Thailand's best (and it would be the best as the Thai's take their rep seriously) and not one independent source? :rofl

 

Interesting information :good

 

your really ******ed. Been hit too hard too many times. Its like that ****** at school whom you have to excuse all the time because he aint got it striaght. Its okay son your forgiven. Keep on working hard tho I can tell you need the extra practice. Pira and Nosbor can be your grappling partners if you need one. They can apply their dominant position on you and then you guys can take turns.