hi guys, i'm going to join the police soon and i was wondering which martial art would be better from a hold and restrain point of view. Bearing in mind that i would have to use minimal force with no striking.
Judo. BJJ is mainly concerned with fighting on the ground, and you will want to be able to control people from a standing position.
judo and you might consider dabbling in something like krav maga in case **** hits the fan. otherwise there's always the obvious choices like boxing/muay thai/etc for when restraint just doesn't work. and if you take judo make sure to learn it politely, and to learn it to make someone hurt like hell. there's a difference between politely putting a friendly guy on the ground, and breaking bones putting a d-bag on the ground ya know?
Wrestling if you can find a school. Judo is good but to be honest their teaching method sucks and slow progression from what I've seen. Too many throws and not enough actual ground control work. For a newbie you won't get half decent center of gravity on the ground for a year. So, I'd say check it out and see if that suits you before signing up.
Mmm, the most dangerous position you will ever find yourself in as a cop, is if you lose control of someone and they get their hands on you.. Judo lends itself to this situation better than most disciplines.. Its not like wrestling, that lends itself to huge amounts of strength and and explosiveness.. But, it lends itself to quickness, leverage and proper technique. You don't need freak strength to do well in Judo.. But, the progression does tend to be slower as ufoalf said. If your a naturally strong guy, maybe wrestling is the better one for you.
Wrestling or Judo I'm gonna be a police officer myself and train in wrestling now. Much better training than what they give to us in college
Don't most Police departments have pipelines for training of this nature? Whether it be specific police combatives training that one would receive in basic training or affilliations with local grappling clubs where officers/potential officers may get part of their trainings subsidized. I would say talk to your recruiter. He/she should be able to help. For what it is worth, I technically train BJJ but our instructors incorporate many judo and wrestling techniques into their respective lesson plans. So in my opinion a good BJJ academy will also give you a foundation in judo and wrestling. This is not the case in strict judo dojo's or wrestling clubs. Other academy members often have much experience in other disciplines and are glad to work with you after class on anything that you wish. Good Luck:
I'm not quite sure I understand you; judo and wrestling will both give you a pretty good base to start from in BJJ. Maybe I'm misreading you and you're saying that you don't train BJJ techniques in judo or wrestling schools where you do train judo and wrestling techniques in bjj schools, which I would kind of agree with for wrestling at least. In judo though you should spend at least some degree of time training on the ground, "newaza," which is generally similar to BJJ. As for the original post, I think either one will do just fine, both will give you ample training; BJJ will make you more technically sound on the ground while Judo will make you more technically sound on the feet, but both should absolutely provide enough of both to be better technically than anybody you run across on the street. Obviously you aren't going to be getting into too many grappling matches, I hope, but it can't hurt. Also it will keep you physically fit and give you an outlet, so even if you don't use the techniques you will still benefit from it.
They're both solid arts - but the emphasis in judo is on throwing whereas the strength in jiujitsu lies in the variety of submissions and being able to fight off one's back. I would say study both if you can - but either one is good.