Pac-Floyd: Myths, Facts and Questions

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  1. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    I just showed that the point you raised about Mosley is irrelevant...Pac never admitted using any PEDs.
    I agree though that urinanalysis is not enough to detect PEDs like hGh and EPO. I you don't knwo the difference between the 2 I can explain to you.

    My point is that there is no shred of evidence that Pac is using any PED, except suspicion..and that is not fair.
     
  2. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    You sure can better than that...What is your opinion?
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I stopped reading after your first 'Fact', which is blatantly incorrect :patsch
     
  4. Lupe

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    I simply don't know. It could be that his legal people believe there is no case, or he is playing out for time, or it's the fact that it's hearsay.
     
  5. Lupe

    Lupe Member Full Member

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    Enlighten me with your wisdom.
     
  6. bonds

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    To that point of juicing does not improve power and speed, i think Mark McGwire could attest that it increases power and Marion Jones would attest that it increases speed. I think theres a "myth" that these drugs cant help boxers but its hard to prove one way or another because so few boxers have ever been caught using them.

    As for juicing helps to increase muscle mass, that would depend on which steroids you take. There are specific steroids that can increase strength, power, and endurance while not increasing muscle mass. The sport which has the highest rate of doping is cycling and cyclists dont have much muscle mass to speak of.

    I dont understand what difference it would make if he was using hgh or not whether or not hes making fights at catchweight.

    The other points you make are opinions. We dont know with certainty whether Pac has taking performance enhancing drugs how can you say for sure he has not when boxing doesnt even test for hgh, epo, thg or maybe hes taking masking agents for what he is taking.

    As for the email, sensibly you would think it doesnt exist how could anyone be so stupid, but by the other side of the argument how could (Tim Smith) or anyone be so stupid to fabricate such a story out of thin air and print it in the New York Daily News? We just dont know at this point.
     
  7. Lupe

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    I don't know what substance Mark was using but I am sure Marion used EPO - which increases red blood cells - leading to increase endurance.
    Now let's not be fooled and this is why I asked the question: Has there been a significant improvement in Pac's endurance to suspect use of EPO?
    HgH increases muscle mass: has Pac bulked in such a way that we can suspect the use of HgH?

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    I have never heard of PEDs that increases speed and punching power. But I am ready to be educated if someone knows. Cyclists are usually associated with endurance increasing PEDs, like EPO and blood doping.

    If he was using HGH he would have increase his muscle mass in such a way that he does not need to come in at a catchweight.

    The fact is, we don't know for certain whether or FLoyd or any other fighter uses PEDs. Must we brand them guilty first? If not then why do we do so with Manny?

    I agree. But it also easy to fabricate an e-mail and present it to Atlas and Tim Smith as if it's authentic
     
  8. dilayro

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    Somebody needs to teach Floyd how not to screw up a business deal.

    If you knew you're going to make to make an insane amount of money, you don't blow the deal by making an allegation your partner is a cheater that a safety net has to be put in place in order to deter cheating. Nice gesture to start off a business deal.

    Floyd really knew how to **** off his business partner. Trust is a bilateral relationship and the foundation of all business deals. No business transaction would ever get made without it and it seems nobody taught him that common principle.

    Anyone with a character ready to deal business with Floyd?
     
  9. oibighead

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    haha

    sorry this is really stupid. All your arguments are bias... and i dont even think he is juicing
     
  10. larrysmith

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    damn thread starter..why didnt you just name the thread"im biased and i blame floyd,manny is always right" get off mannys nutt sack
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    Steroids develop Speed and Power, sometimes without adding muscle mass. Regardless they aid recovery meaning you can progress much quicker.

    EPO improves stamina

    If you dont know the facts dont post a thread about 'Facts', I gave up reading after the first 1, I have a feeling the rest are equally inaccurate
     
  12. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the only myth and fact i have seen so far....how the **** does the TS know what is FACT...u don't know pac isn't or wasn't using???? he never took the blood test...it is not a FACT that he is clean until he does
     
  13. larrysmith

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    and juicing does make you faster and stronger..lol why do you think people juice???seriously man this thread is dumb...and how did manny want the fight more than floyd??he's the one that rejected the test and filed a lawsuit..floyd excepted all of amnnys demands...floyd wanted to fight..manny wanted to sue..now thats a fact
     
  14. Lupe

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    Why do you believe they are bias? Why don't you think Manny is juicing?
     
  15. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    my OPINIONS would be the same if u replaced floyd with pac....why do people come on here stating nuthugging theories and state them as FACTS...either way noone knows the real facts it is all opinion