I think beebs is saying that Judo has a well-developed newaza curriculum which is Jiu-jitsu in a sense. In my opinion Training at a Judo dojo would be the closest thing to 'training JJ and Judo', whereas a BJJ school would be more lacking in throws than a Judo dojo would be lacking in ground game. But im not the highest athority here on the subject, others seem to feel judo has slow progression.
How about learning guerilla jui jitsui they combined judo wit jui jitsui. Dave camarillo started it!! You tube him
Just be like all the other cops and tazer the **** out of people before it gets physical. That or Judo might better suit you.
I do not mean to come off like a jerk but judo newaza basically sucks. I can recall at least a dozen examples of guys who came into the BJJ/grappling academy where I train that had judo black belts, a couple even got theirs in Japan and they had the ground work of a new blue belt in BJJ. When judo playsers hit the mat the uki immediately turtles up and tori is given like 15 seconds to accomplish something or they are stood up, YUK, simply awfull... And before someone chimes in. NO, they were not Olympic/elite World or even National level judokas. Those guys are more in line with high level BJJ blue belts.
well it certainly sounds like the amatuer judokas newaza will be outdone by an amatuer who focuses only BJJ. also, is there a technical reason who judo newaza sucks? a bad technique, weakness, flaw, etc....? Because I watched the olympic judo team working out and I imagine as soon as their hands grabbed onto my gi I would be as good as dead.
Judo players simply do not do enough ground work/newaza. The scoring criterion and limited time to accomplish anything while on the ground, lend itself to a comparitively weaker ground game. As I mentioned previously: Most judo matched that hit the ground, ippon(s) aside, wind up with the top player trying to attack an arm from the bottom player, who is clamped up tight in a turtled position/guard.
'Judo players do not practice enough newaza' =/= 'Judos' newaza sucks' just to clarify what Im talking about
Fairly well. I'd say you'd be ahead of 99% of most people you see everyday. Grappling + striking always gives good "roundedness". Especially for non competitive people.
i would rather be scared to be taken down but yet confident on the ground as opposed to being confident on my feet and having no confidence on the ground cops usually carry batons while on the feet so they are usually 'invincible' on foot guess which one i prefer
For a cop I would say Judo, I think it's the best martial art to always keep you on your feet, the hip strength you develop from Judo can not be matched via any other martial art.
BJJ, gi and no gi classes because there won't always be a lapel to grip on the street like in judo competition. I don't know of any judo schools that offer no gi classes.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense actually. They spend way less time working specifically on ground work, so they're not as proficient at it. I think most BJJ blue belts know plenty of subs with good technique to whip the vast majority of people on the ground and also have great throws and balance. That sounds like the perfect mix to me and is not at all a detraction from judo.
