Pac drug test negative:

atsch

The olympic testing is overboard. However, so is the $10 mill per lb. penalty. Team Pac agreed to the testing and then tried to go back on the agreement after Mayweather agreed to the weight penalty. Not only that, but Roach claimed if they had a 7 day window they woud accept. They were offered a 14 day window, lied by claiming the 14 day window was never offered, and also filed a lawsuit against Mayweather. Let's also not forget that they are demanding an apology by Mayweather for accusing Pac of doing steroids when he never made such an accustaion. So let's not act like Team Pacquaio hasn't committed numerous acts that have served to derail this fight.

Taken from BigReg.

Pac and team Pac have done more to shut this fight down than Mayweather has.

 

Floyd agreed to the 10 million dollar penalty, but Pac conceded that the fight would be fought at Floyd's weight limit. It's like saying "I won't ask for a catchweight, but you better not come over the WW limit"

Also, Roach is not Pacquiao. Roach thought 50-50 was a fair split for the Hatton fight, but Pacquiao refused to sign the contract. Roach speaks his own mind, he is not a spokesperson for Pacquiao.

 

So he ask for the penalty despite Floyd never coming in over 147 ever in his career?

That doesn't change the fact that Manny has been shown taking blood test up to 14 days from the fight.

Arum claiming they never offered the 14 day test, yet they actually did.

Pac lets Arum speak and do for him. And well, what Arum is showing is that Pac never wanted the fight in the first place.

 

Whether or not the Mayweathers should have asked for the test is not what I'm arguing. Fact is Pac won't take the test and hasn't come up with a good reason why not. Simply not wanting to do what the Mayweather's say is a rubbish excuse to lose $40,000,000 and disappoint the fans.

He's brought the suspicion on himself.


And, for the record, I think Floyd's been a bit of a dick, far too stubborn, but in no way is this him ducking. He sent Pac another offer and still wanted this fight whilst Pac was busy setting up a different fight altogether.

 

You probably mean that Floyd never came in over 147 for a WW fight. Because he did come in over 147 against Oscar.

Pac is just covering his bases here. He is already giving up alot by fighting a bigger guy at that guy's natural weight, and he just doesn't want that guy to come in even bigger than he is supposed to. I think that's pretty fair. 5 million, 10 million, 20 million, it doesn't matter. Pac is not trying to get more money, he wants the weight limit to be respected.

The fact is actually that Pac was not shown taking the blood test up to 14 days from the fight. That turned out to be a lie. The one time he did take a blood test within 14 days from a fight (the first Morales fight), he felt it had a negative effect on him.

Arum didn't claim that they never offered the 14 day test. Not from what I've read. From what I understood, GBP said that Pac should accept 14 days because he took blood 14 days from the Hatton fight. That turned out to be a lie, which is why Arum scoffed at the 14 day offer.

 

It's still stupid to have a 10 million penalty. Floyd agreed despite it being stupid. Covering his bases? He's the WBO champion. Jesus.

atsch

He also had a cut on his ****ing head. So should Pac implement a clause that if he gets cut the fight is declared a draw because he's going to lose more blood than what's going to be taken out of him.

****, he probably loses more blood from being hit on the nose a few times than the amount they will take. I guess he should get a clause for that too.

No, Arum said 14 days was NEVER offered, then the next day he said they did offer it.

Arum speaks for Pac remember? So from Arum's actions, Pac clearly didnt want the fight.

 

How does Pac being WBO champion ensure that Floyd will make the weight. I don't think Floyd cares much about the WBO belt.

I don't think you're making much sense here. There are already clauses for accidental cuts. If its before 4 rounds, its a NC, and after that they go to the scorecards.

If he gets hit on the nose by his opponent, then his opponent deserves the benefit of that. But if he is weakened by a bloodtest, then its not the same ballgame.

I don't see how in what you said, you can come to the conclusion that Pac clearly didn't want the fight. Just cause Arum said they didn't propose 14 days (when did he say that?) and then said they did doesn't change any of that. If he didn't want the fight, he would never have proposed the 24 day cut-off date.

 

I see your point but thats a pretty simple request to deny on the part of pac for a fight of this magnatude. I have asked at least 20 people non boxing fans and hardcore fans what do they think about the subject and everyone said if you want the fight and have nonthing to hide you take the test, clear your name and beat PBF ass in the ring.

 

You and BigReg seem to forget that the whole issue that derailed the fight was drug testing.

Mayweather' issue.

Unprecedented, and completely without a shred of justification.

Subsequent 'details' around the issue are irrelevant.
There was never any reason to introduce it.


Introduced by Mayeather with no precedent and no rational reason.


Other than to avoid fighting.






(BTW: You didn't address a single point of the post you answered).

 

You just said Pac is looking out for himself for being at 147 against a bigger man. He's a champion, there's nothing to look out for.

Floyd has never broken a contract weight clause. The Marquez fight was resigned to be at 147. Pac asked for a 10 million penalty based on what?

Nothing, but WAIT, Floyd agreed! Just like Pac agreed to blood testing then has backed out.

atsch I'm talking merely blood loss.

How is it not? He's losing blood, blood weakens him. He should get a clause for it.

atsch You speak on thing you do not know.

 

YET, here's the key part, get ready for it.


Pacquaio himself said. I WILL DO THE TEST.

Holy ****.

Dont agree to testing if you don't want to do it.

Pac agreed, now it's Floyds fault?

It's not like Pac said I dont want to do the test, I have nothing to hide. It was I'll do the test, then changed his mind.

 

Pac may be WW champion after his win over Cotto but regardless of that he is still a very small WW and wants to ensure that his already bigger opponent does not come in over 147. Sounds ok to me. 10 million is alot, but is not the $ that matters, its that Floyd makes the weight.

If what matters to Floyd is that Pac is clean, then he'll accept Pac's compromise.

 

Floyd has never missed weight ever. Yet he agreed.

Pac never tested positive for anything but hey! He accepted to take the blood test.

What compromise? 24 days? You said in another post

Now Floyd must accept pac's compromise according to you.

 

you are saying that random blood tests with a 24 day cutoff date is not a compromise when the rule doesn't even require any blood tests. I think the definition of the word compromise is lost on you.

I thought Pac would accept 14 days, but I also thought Floyd would accept 30 days before that, yet he didn't. I also said that in Pacquiao's shoes I would not have accepted any additionnal testing based on the principle. Did you forget that?

 

Pac is a welterweight champion How could he not, concede to fighting at welter weight. Second of all floyd has never come in over the welter weight limit so again pac request does not make since

Pac has not had any problems with Roach speaking for him in the past.