Negative Joe Calzaghe Comments

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by pugilist64, Jan 16, 2010.


  1. pugilist64

    pugilist64 Guest

    In the words of the immortal Loudon Wainwright III "Maybe it`s hate but probably it`s love"

    Discuss.
     
  2. prideofvbeach

    prideofvbeach Top 10 Pound-For-Pound Full Member

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    Joe is going to the hall of fame and nothing they can say can change that.
     
  3. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    no, it's hate. he's like a kid who can exploit a video game. he just throws a lot of punches, even if they aren't effective. we doesn't necessarily beat his opponents, he just wins rounds. at least that's what happens on the rare occasions when he fights against good people. not a bad fighter, but not a great fighter.
     
  4. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    good fighter and dosent deserve the hte he gets but he also shouldnt be given all the praise he recieves either
     
  5. Davies

    Davies Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amen to that
     
  6. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he has accomplished much and does deserve to go to the hall of fame. but he is as tthe product of himself as he is the product of weak opposition.
     
  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Or in the words of Daniel Patrick Moynihan: "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts."

    And the fact is, for the 11 years he was a super middleweight champion, Joe somehow failed to step in the ring with a single P4P talent in his prime. And the most impressive wins he can boast, are an abysmal Jeff Lacy, and a robotic Mikkel Kessler.
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    The problem when talking about Calzaghe is, the ridiculous extremes people go to. His fans think he's the best thing ever, his detractors think he's an absolute fraud. He's obviously somewhere in between.
     
  9. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe beat everyone put in front of him.

    Simply the best Super Middleweight ever (for what that is worth) and does not get the respect he should from many cause he refused to play to the American market. When he finally did go to America for his last two fights it did not really endear him to the Americans cause he beat their darling Hopkins (a fighter Joe beats at any stage in their careers).

    His beat asset was his ability to adapt mid-fight - he was never out thought in the ring and he came up with the answer against every fighter he faced.

    Not a top 50 ATG but could be top 20 of the past 20 years.
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    ^^ this is exactly what I'm talking about. ****ing fanboy bias bull****. He beat everyone that was put in front of him - yeah - and what was put in front of him was absolute junk for the most part. Best supermiddleweight ever - yeah, again true - and SMW isn't exactly stacked with ATG's is it? His "best ability" was his stamina and workrate, and how you can say "that Joe Calzaghe would beat Hopkins at any stage in their careers' is beyond me, I don't see any logic behind this at all, none whatsoever.
     
  11. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: Adapting mid-way through a fight against the level of opposition he faced, isn't as impressive as you make out.

    Good talent yes, but failed to justify it.

    Oh and I forgot to address your assertion of Hopkins when you said "a fighter Joe beats at any stage in their careers". Are you serious? He failed to beat him convincingly at the old age of 43, so what the hell makes you think he'd beat an optimum Hopkins?

    lol you probably think he'd beat a prime Roy Jones too
     
  12. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    theres a thin line between love and hate but all roads leed to joe calzaghe.
     
  14. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    did this guy not see the fight? calzaghe has a bigger American fan base than hopkins. most Americans don't even like hopkins. in most of his fights people are rooting for him to lose. that being said, i like hopkins. i respect anyone who can find their own way to greatness instead of taking the same beaten path everyone else takes.
     
  15. DanielSt

    DanielSt 46-0-0 Full Member

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    Negativ.They hate him because he beat certain fighters who were supposed to be great.