Actor on set of Big Boss confirmed a fight with Bruce Lee with a thaiboxer

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:rofl

how old are you?

 

Why does that matter you bias fawk?

 

AND YOU ARE THE CLASSICAL MORON?

I think you have your facts a little crossed and screwed. Not unusual on threads like this.

Everyone knows that Joe Lewis was already an accomplished fighter and champion. Bruce was impressed with him and actually asked to help train him - have an exchange of minds - because Bruce saw that Lewis had great skill, but needed refining.

Of course, egos being egos in the martial arts world, Lewis said thanks but no thanks. I mean who the **** does this little chinese guy with no competition and belts and trophies, and basically no name, think he is when he thinks he can train me and improve my martial arts? So, basically, that was their first meeting.

However, as time wore on, Bruce did get a reputation, and from the likes of respected martial artists like Jhoon Rhee and Ed Parker, and notably Mike Stone, who had heard it through the grapevine that he should meet this guy to see his thoughts on fighting. MIke Stone was the equal if not more renowned than Joe Lewis and was known as one of the baddest ****ers on the tournament scene, and he wanted to check this little chinese guy out, if only to shut all the talk he was hearing.

Basically Stone was impressed and became a student of Bruce's. He became a believer. And he spread the word which reached the likes of Norris and Lewis. If Stone wasn't as respected as a fighter, there would have been no way that Norris and Lewis would have even contemplated on seeing Lee. But seeing Lee they did, and Norris became a student too.

Regarding Lewis, Lee was aware of what Lewis was like and how he had first turned down the offer of training, and so Bruce made it absolutely sure that it was Lewis who was insistent in meeting and training with Lee, and not the other way round. So Bruce actually refused to train Lewis, citing perhaps that maybe Lewis was right and that there was nothing to offer after-all. Mind games, basically, and it was after Lewis contacted him a number of times that Lee thought it was ok to train him, and that there was no confusion as to who contacted who for training.

As for the falling out in regards of the media. This is highly unlikely since Bruce was frequently at competitions to hand out trophies to Lewis, and everyone already knew that Bruce was training him. True, the association would have benefited Lee, but the link was reciprocal as Lewis seemed untouchable with the skills that Bruce developed for Lewis. Certainly, Lewis didn't seem to mind much as Lee attended a large number of tournaments Lewis participated in.

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So, yeah, that media thing you mentioned is kinda bull****. No one knows why they fell out, but there is a rumour that towards the end that Lewis was hooked on coke and was becoming paranoid, even to the extent of accusing Bruce of making a move on his wife. Something that Lewis has mentioned before and is rather ashamed of, since he went to Bruce's home a bit mad and had to be calmed down by Lee and only realised he had been foolish when Lee asked him to repeat the accusation to Lee's wife.

I think your comments about me is typical of the person who himself gets upset with what others think about Bruce Lee. Basically, you are projecting your anger at someone like me, who isn't. I try and supply the facts, but if opinions are forthright and obviously bull****, yeah, I think it's rather ******ed and should be call out as such. And all the 'you jack off to Lee movies' comebacks does come across as ******ed, no matter how you look at it. So, yeah, you're coming across as a bit ******ed. Sorry.

 

I dont care if Bruce lee's public relations people put out a book with some big names to boost his credentials. The video of bruce training and being bad trumps that in the wrong way.

Also, I don't care who jhoon rhee thinks is a good martial practitioner.

 

Joe Lewis does claim (according to his own organization) that Lee's Jun Fan JKD influenced his own approach, and that he trained productively with Lee. Then again, Mr. Lewis has profited from Lee's name by putting out several JKD books, so you might take it with a grain of salt. :think

 

Its all business.

 

This is such an interesting thread. The only fight i ever remember lee talking about, he was shocked at how hard it was to defeat a live opponent.

 

There is alot of things you need to learn by being involved in real fights. I read that Bruce did weights hard and was 160 pounds. He had a fight and gassed after a couple of minutes because he couldn't finish the fight quickly. After that he apparently changed his weights regime, trained for more stamina and cut to 135 pounds.

 

Bruce was a bad man. After he died everyone started talking ****

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Well, hearsay from an actor uninvolved with fighting about Chuck Norris thinking about a hypothetical situation, that changes everything!

 

Just playing Devils advocate. I could care less. Just want to know if theres anything in print from these same guys questioning or demeaning Bruces legitimacy while Bruce was still alive.

Its almost the same a McCartney claiming he had a hand in Johns great Beatles songs.

 

Well there was no real cult of personality around him when he was alive, what exactly where they going to refute? There was no real reason for competitive fighters to say anything about him because he was not a part of their world.

 

I mean cmon, nothing much have changed. People specially men are very competitive. There were a 5 year span that Bruce was the man of MA. And he was very popular even then. If I was a competing person like Norris(or someone), I would say something specially when Bruce beat him in a film. First thing I would expect would be alot of questions as "what if that was a true fight, who would win?"

Especially those times were not as tolerant as it is now. Someonw would have called out this little chinese man whether on TV, Magazines..whatever. Or not even call him out..just state that "Hes just an actor, hes not really a professional fighter" like Chuck is fond of saying now.