People backing Khan ????? I'm with Warren here.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Dan684, Jan 17, 2010.


  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We can have a game.

    I will show you what would have happened if Calzaghe had ever fought Geroge Foreman, Lewis or Ali if you like.

    Or pehaps a midget like Oscar, who Hopkins is a legend for beating, despite an inferior resume to Calzaghe.
     
  2. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Two scousers, fighting each other, in Liverpool, for a British title.... Hmm I'd imagine that would probably sell if ANYONE promoted it. He doesn't put on the best shows- he used to but now he just puts on good shows because he seems unable to develop his own fighters in an attractive way. For every Ricky Hatton, there is a jason Mathews, a derry Mathews, a Steve Foster, a Steve Murray, a Ryan Rhodes (not current), a Dean Pithie, an Alex Arthur, a Kenny Anderson- fighters who simply have not been matched or promoted in an attractive way.

    Every fighter follows the same route 8-9 fights against journeyman, 5-6 fights against ill prepared domestic contenders... The odd international where they may or may not get knocked off... its unappealing.

    Khan, Hamed, Benn, Eubank, Bruno all made they're name before going to Warren. He is excellent at navigating fighters to porcelin titles (WBU/WBO and of late the WBA 'real super-duper' title) but the information age has put paid to the bull****.

    The gap has been there for a long time, no wonder every tom, dick and harry with a bit of coin wants to be a promoter.... will they ever achieve what Warren has? Doubt it- they guy is the greatest UK promoter of all time- but he 'the company' have milked it for too long... They need to make a statement... there in the perfect position to do it but fixing the olympians in chief support to Khan against over-matched opps is not he way to do it... nor is hiding a big, exciting puncher like Macca down the bill to get chinned.

    Nor is putting Alex Arthur in with a talented sharp shooting southpaw like Nigel Wright in his first fight above lightweight. Dean Powell has a right tricky job but I'd love them to come on here (and all of the forums) and say right boxing fans.... What do you want to see at these shows?
     
  3. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's 22.
     
  4. AndrewFFC

    AndrewFFC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol::good
     
  5. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    fair comment, but joes legacy was built later in his career when he faced better opposition on a more regular occurance.

    Warrens strength lies in building up fighters slowly and building them up the right way... on there way to some kind of title.

    I wasnt having a dig at Warren there... its just what i believe to be the case:good
     
  6. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    Joe was well into his thirties when he left Warren.

    Although Joe had admittily achieved a lot at that point Joe needed to move on and gain more exposure in the American market
     
  7. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    way to gang up on me man... thats cold:|
     
  8. punchdrunkgench

    punchdrunkgench Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this is great news for khan and fight fans worldwide we will actually see a british fighter in competetive fights chasing genuine belts on a world stage which is something we would have been deprived of if khan had stayed with warren and his worst fight best money policy.
     
  9. Cliff Spab

    Cliff Spab New Member Full Member

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    dodson and quigley were two scousers fighting for british title in liverpool was the echo arena full no it want i dont even think there was 3,000 in a 9,000 seated arena when hayemaker promoted so thats how easy it is for two scousers to fill the arena.as for alex arthur his doctor advised him to not make lightweight and with him always banging on bout being world class its hardly the matchmakers fault when they get him an average light welter who on paper he should beat who has lost 6 fights and english title holder at best.world class as arthur bangs on about really should deal with wright if he still has aspirations shunt he? An you tell me another promoter that could of got khan a world title fight in 3 fights after being chinned by prescott and the answer would be none mate.
     
  10. punchdrunkgench

    punchdrunkgench Boxing Addict Full Member

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    An you tell me another promoter that could of got khan a world title fight in 3 fights after being chinned by prescott and the answer would be none mate.[/quote]


    khan was selling out 10000 seats thus bringing in plenty of money so anyone could have got him a title shot as you just throw more money at the champ(money that khans earning by putting bums on seats) and you will get a title shot,and the loss makes it even easier for warren as it wasnt hard convincing a chamo to fight a fighter whose offerin 50k more than anyone else and has just been beaten that aint a hard sell mate trust me
     
  11. brown bomber

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    Why not put Arthur in with a lesser accomplished fighter until he was healthy enough to make the weight again? Why the sudden 'excited' match making?

    Dodson-Quigley was a late notice fight. And that bill was far more intriguing then your typical FWP show.

    FW did a fabulous job getting Khan into a 'world title fight' but lets be realistic here, the fact that Khan got that oppertunity says more about the state of boxing then it does the skill of the promoter.

    The idea was always for Khan to pick up that title- thats why average (in world terms) fighters like Ree's, Kotelnik and M'Baye were contesting it.... Maidana was just an unfortunate inconveniance.

    Prescott just slowed things down... perhaps Khan would not have had the Barrera fight, but they needed to gamble following the prescott disaster and used FW's connection with Barrera to make a fight.

    If all had gone according to plan Ree's/Kotelnik would have fought khan straight after the ***an fight I bet.
     
  12. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    jeff come on man. Nobody in the UK is anywhere near Warren on a promotional level. And how many people seriously expected Wright to beat Arthur (as **** as Arthur is)
     
  13. brown bomber

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    I did... or at least I said it was a super risky fight. :deal And also Arthur is not **** at all.... Irritating as his fake persona occasionally may be.... he can fight.

    And no one is on Warrens level .... yet! but they will be,.
     
  14. Cliff Spab

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  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I have a bit of pity for Warren with regards the situation, but ultimately its his own doing.