Negative Joe Calzaghe Comments

:good Agreed!!

I personally consider him a superb fighter, but a dominant champion in a weak division, but had the appropriate opposition been available, I believe he would have beat them to!!

No-one can argue that the man's adaptability was truly superb!! Due to severe hand problems he had to change his training and fighting style. And during his toughest fights, he adaptability was obvious!

 

Hey Dubs......i'd like to start a thread entitled....." Mild Joe Calzaghe comments".

No on would post though.

 

:rofl Good luck with that Des!!!

 

:good Excellent post Des and a good read!!

As A Calzaghe fan I wish he had bigger names on his resume, i'm sure many fans of lots of boxers feel the same! Had the 2002 fight with B-Hop took place he may well have proved all doubters wrong, but the fact is that Joe will be judged on who he beat not who we believe he could have beat!!

Like many fans of Joe I wish he had been just a couple of years younger!! The "Super 6" tournament would have provided him with further opportunities for improving his resume!

I personally believe that "Prime" Joe would have beat everyone in the Super 6, and there are some superb fighters in there, who's styles are truly varied!! Had he been able to do so, there would have been no debate as to any HOF claims he and his supporters make.

 

Somehow I had a feeling you'd have a few answers, you seem to know your stuff. But in this day and age where guys constantly move up and and down and fight at catch weights many of these fight could have easily been made and all would have been preferable to the ones he actually did make.

The answers, although accurate, (with the exception of G. Johnson, who JC was supposed to fight and on at least 2 occasions and backed out.)still speak to the idea that JC would only fight in the comfort zones of his own devices. Regardless, those are guys whose careers(at least partially)intersected JC's and whose scalps(had he beaten them, which is not unrealistic to think)would have been far better than the scalps he has.
Unfortunately, JC's actual opposition is considered generally weak, I don't think you'd argue that point. Regardless of why he didn't fight better guys, in my book, is irrelevant. I'm not looking to lay blame at anyone's feet for it. It is what it is.

 

I'm just saying there wasn't much out there 4 Joe. Which is true.

 

:good Agreed!!

America or Wales, B-Hop did indeed renege on the deal!!

 

Whatever was in the contract Bhop accepted first time round my friend only to back out... Location of the fight has nothing to do with it... suggesting it is absurd:good

 

I think JC would have been a big fav going into the SUper 6..... if they had let him in. THe only guy I think he would have trouble with would have been Abraham. His power is scary and he is such a strange fighter. Don't get me wrong, JC could have easily outpointed him, maybe even now, but AA has that explosive power that, can just turn a fight upside down. And JC wasn't that hard to hit.

 

Probably so, but I think there was more options than a lot of people think. Thye just happened not to be JC's chosen division, granted a relatively young division. But guys hop all the time, why not Joe? Probably because the belt and the "o" meant more to him( and Warren) than building up the names on his resume. At some point, though, I think he thought better of it. Either way, I certainly don't think he gives a sheep shite what me or other posters or critics say. He's got lots of dough, the adoration of his loyal fans, his health, and will be an HOFer.

 

Why everyone fails to mention that Hopkins lost not one,but 2 decisions to Jermaine Taylor years before he fought Calzaghe is beyond me.For anyone to say that Hopkins was close to prime when he fought Calzaghe is either A.Simply incorrect because anyone considered a great fighter but then loses twice to Taylor cannot be prime.
B.Just saying that Hopkins(and Calzaghe for that matter)is genuinely overrated and not that good in the first place simply because he lost twice to Taylor in the first place.Unless,of course,that person is under the assumption that Jermaine was a great middleweight.I certainly am not.Anyone that loses twice to Pavlik including once by knockout is not a great middleweight.As far as JC is concerned,in his autobiography he(correctly) claimed that Jones was shot due to his devastating loses to Tarver and Johnson.Then he claimed that he would never fight Roy because of that fact.Then signs to fight Roy and goes around saying that Roy was still great after Roy beat(but couldn't ko) equally shot former welterweight Tito.In other words,Joe Calzaghe lied through his teeth in order to make himself look good.He now goes around saying he beat a legend in Jones.Shame on Joe.Shame on me because I used to be a fan of lying Joe's.

 

One of his funniest moments, trust me there's many, is when he claimed RJJ is past it and a worthless fight only to change that completely to "It's ridiculous people say he's shot" when the fight was signed.

He claimed his WBO title was too precious and people had to travel to him because of it yet it was reasonable to travel to the US with his lineal title when everyone was beyond shot.

 

Yup.

 

The link you provide describes another set of negotiations later in 2002.

Earlier in the year, Bernard's team had a verbal agreement and then reneged.

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it makes me laugh when people criticize joe because he ''didnt beat opponents he just won rounds!''WTF?!