Top 5 most overrated boxers of All Time

those arent facts. Those are opinions

I would think someone as knowledgable as you would know the difference

 

How can those be facts, Norris was sweating before they even began

Facts - pfffffffft

 

I am a BIG Duran fan but yeah he is ranked a little high IMO. His losses to Hearns (KO) and Lenard (NO MAS) and his weight (lifestyle) should be factors in his placement. Later in his career he just was a blob....with Power if he keeped a clean lifestyle and focused on his blobnes...LOL he could have been greater.

 

Seeing as most of those guys were better or more accomplished than the guys you are accusing him of "ducking" instead, then yes it does.

Having an immediate rematch after losing a punishing battle, and coming straight off a three year layoff with a detached retina were definitely not "on his side."

 

It's not an "opinion" that he was stopped by huge underdog Simon Brown, Einstein. atsch

 

You seem to overlook Duran's achievements at his natural weight in his prime - he was 13-0 in title fights in the lightweight division (12 by stoppage), including a victory over the superb Ken Buchanan, and stayed champion for 7 years. Duran's achievements at lightweight alone are great - if he had retired before the Leonard fight his record would have been 71-1 and he'd have been in the top 10 P4P of all-time on that alone.

He then moved up to welter and beat arguably the 2nd greatest welterweight of all time. At 37 he won the middleweight title. The Leonard win and the Barkley win were really amazing achievements -I can't think of too many fighters who moved up 4 weight divisions to become world champion in their late 30s, or who beat a younger top 3 ATG who was 2 weight divisions above their prime fighting weight.

Basically you are knocking him because he had some losses at welter and middleweight - well he had wins too, and most of his losses were against ATG fighters like Benitez, Hagler, Hearns. Imagine if Hagler had moved up to cruiserweight after the Leonard fight and lost...would that tarnish his legacy? Or if Leonard had taken fights at light heavy and been KOd?

How many other former lightweights scored such victories at welter and middleweight?

 

Beat every guy he ever fought, won 17 heavyweight title fights, only beaten twice and one was a dubious early stoppage, and in his late 30s beat the heir apparent in his last fight, won an olympic gold. How is he overrated? If anything, Lewis is underrated.

 

Yeah he was essentially scraping the barrel by fighting Hearns in the rematch because he thought it was safe being that Hearns had recently got put in the dirt by Barkley, Leonard lost that fight but his judges made sure to save him. Leonard had the stipulations on his side in the Hagler fight so I can care less about that fight and giving Duran a third fight was sad because he clearly was avoiding real threats like McCallum, Jackson, Nunn who all three would have whooped his ass.

 

More accomplished? Yes you are right about that.

But were they bigger threats head to head than Nunn, McCallum, Jackson?....No they were not, which is why Leonard steered clear from those 3 fellas.

Granted Duran was an excuse maker but he was not up to par in the rematch and even Leonard admitted to it, so I have strong doubts as to whether he would have pursued a rematch with Duran if he were in top notch shape physically and mentally like he was in Montreal. And its not like SRL had a detached retina like David Reid so lets not over blow that. That was just another fabricated media sensation by SRL. As I said the stipulations in the Hagler fight favored Leonard only.

 

why not set the standards for himself higher then?

Give Hagler a rematch the way Duran gave Leonard one. If he gets passed hagler again, he can go on to Micheal Nunn.

I dont think that's too much to ask for. Do you?

 

read the quote more carefully before responding

maybe it's time you got your eyes checked?

 

Thats a subject his fans won't go near with a ten foot pole. It would drastically affect his standing every time they were reminded

 

Duran was an easy touch for Leonard in 89 seeing that Duran's exit visa had been revoked & he had a massive tax bill so had to dance to the Leonard tune again & behave himself & make sure that he followed Leonards discreet orders to weigh in under 160LBs when the contracted catchweight was 163LBs for Leonards S/Middle title & duran came in at 158.5 & Leonard sticks the knife even futher in by coming in bang on 160 so neither of them were inside S/Middle

So Bob Arum yells out that it must be for both title's!!! Duran's camp go nuts & say it's for Leonards title but Jose Sulliman strips Duran of his Middleweight crown after the fight seeing that he lost at middleweight as both weighed in at middleweight so work that ****er out seeing the fight was meant to be for the WBC Middleweight Crown & that was all down to that dirty ******* Leonard not even putting a roll of quarters into his track suit bottoms so as to be inside S/Middle thus protecting Durans title, talk about getting ****ed over AGAIN!!!

But leonard ****ed it for himself big time by again using the take the money & run tactics after publicly saying that he was going to fight duran as he had unfinished bizzness with him & we all swallowed that ****

He had all the celebs walking out by round 10 & the crown chanting bull**** bull****, this was meant to be Steve Winns crowning glory to celebrate the opening of the Mirage,he was expecting a mega performence but ended up with that ****:fire he vowed that Leonard would never ever fight in Vegas again & he did'nt, thats why he had to fight Terry Norris in NY.

 

Lewis is terribly underrated, especially amongst those who think erroeously that a prime Bowe or Tyson would have beaten him.