True if you take Duran as a lightweight alone he was top 3 lightweight on most lists. 135lbs was his weight and that was his home. Only because he was great could he move up and fight the experienced Olympic Champ and World Welter weight Champ and win. 71-1 was quite a record and look at some of the names he beat at lightweight Buchanan,Dejesus, who was his only loss that he avenged 2 times. Duran dominated 135. I think Duran was the best fighter of the 70's and that is saying a lot
Well this is just going to go around in circles..At the end of the day history and the vast majority of fans will remember Leonard as one of the greatest of alltime, one of the most complete fighters to ever lace them up and with a resume that has top shelf wins that are as good as any fighter in history. He beat the best fighters available at the time of his prime and stepped up against one of the greatest middleweights ever when things were stacked against him just as much if not more than they were against the ageing Marvin. You and your mate redrooster can stew all you like about the fighters Leonard didnt fight when he was old, lame and semi-retired. You have an uphill battle on your hands getting people to focus on that rather then the greater, more accomplished fighters he actually beat in his and their primes.
I've always given Leonard the utmost credit & respect with regard to his victory over Benitez/Hearns when back then there was only the WBA/WBC & no hiding place. It was Benitez or Cuevas & Duran/Hearns lurking just beneath the waves & a different more dangerous world than you could ever get as in compared to today what with the plethora of no danger bull**** title's belts that are handed out as in WBF/IBO ect. I've been accused of being a Leonard hater by a few novices but in reality i'am not, well not when it comes to what he had to do in winning the title & especially the way he snatched victory from the jaws of defeat against Hearns starting with that unbelievable all out attack when he unloaded that avalanche onto Hearns in the 13th round has to be one of the greatest salvo's ever unleashed in any world title fight. It just showed what it took to win when the tide had turned against you & it was only you that could turn it around, the stamina/will & drive to be able to do that "do or die salvo" showed just what it takes to become a genuine world champion "You've got to suck it up from the gut" as Leonard said. That to me showed that he was indeed a great & remarkable champion at that time & deserved the plaudits that came with the job as when put to the ultimate test he passed it with distiction. I just think he was a **** after that, but the history books don't lie do they!! Benitez/Duran/Hearns/Hagler = 4 Aces in any mans poker match:smoke The no-mas fiasco believe it or not never cut to me that much, well not as much as it does now after reading "Hands of Stone" where Duran was getting pissed up & having a party in his hotel room straight after walking out of the ring in New Orleans. It was the Hearns wipe-out that left me on the floor choking & gasping for oxygen like & stranded fish, now that did hurt:|
Then you'd be whining he picked on a shot Hagler, AGAIN Nothing he ever did would have been good enough for you red dog. Now there's a fact!
Why not? Hearns had the power of Jackson (and no worse a chin) and the speed + physical advantages of Nunn. He was about as big a H2H threat to Leonard as you could get. As for the others, Benitez was as good a defensive boxer as any of them, and Duran was as skilled/ferocious an infighter. BTW, how is it that Pryor's name was suddenly substituted with McCallum's? :huh
He beat an ATG HOFer and reigning undisputed champ in each fight. There isn't anything higher than that. You refuse to give him credit for the first win, but then you want him to fight him a second time?? :nut Yes. I already did. The Quote: :nut Maybe it's time you looked in the mirror. That's because it's false.
duran 'overrated' wow!! are u ****in kidding me? james toney now theres an overrated ****wit if ever there was one!
I can understand perfectly where you're coming from John This content is protected ON the other hand, you must understand where I'm coming from. I wouldnt call defending his title exerting himself too much I dont think anyone would mind too much to see what he had after the Hagler match now that the rust is gone Why jump two divisions when you've got perfectly fine competion where you're at? :yep Seems as tho his fans arent too eager to watch him risk too much and hence the satisfaction with his remedial boxing tour remedial boxing tour #11 p4p ever!
is this da same leonard hu was beatin by a lightweight camacho....tut tut tut hahaha yeah right **** off floyd u go beat a man hu is a natural 147 fighter and den have ur piece on ray leonard dont diss a great until u become a great
You mean that guy that was KTFO by Julian Jackson, Simon Brown, and Keith Mullings, never rematched Jackson or Mullings, and avoided JC Vasquez? What a great set of consistent standards there! :nut
Avoided JC Vasquez?....Give me a break!!!!!! Terry shuts him down the same way he did Vasquez fellow Argentinian Jorge Castro.:bbb And Terry was a shot fighter when he lost to Mullings so you cant hold that against him in terms of legacy!:fire