Is "Roadwork" in boxing overrated?

unfortunately in the old days people didn't have access to the knowledge we now do on sports science. As a result many people today see what older fighters did and try to imitate it.

Roadwork is a huge waste of time. HIIT is the way forward and pounding the streets everyday doing solid state cardio is ridiculous.

his is an interesting article http://www.marksdailyapple.com/case-against-cardio/

 

as far as i got.

 

Calzaghe states he runs six miles a day in his book "No Ordinary Joe". He also slams so called scientific methods of training and weight lifting. Joe always had amazing stamina.

Paul Williams states he runs 5 miles a day and does not weight lifting. See British Boxing News website section entitled 60 second interviews for his interview and training regime. Lots of other world class fighters have their training routines on that site. Virtually all do roadwork.

Also see Gary Todds book regarding the training routines of loads of world class fighters. They all do four to seven + miles a day of running.

There is a reason world class fighters, run so much. It works!

 

Also, Floyd has stated in interviews on this site that he runs six to eight miles. Do some mining and you will find the interview.

 

No...roadwork is essential

 

well said :good long runs are good at start of training camp for weight loss, stamina etc but hight intensity training runs have to done espec the closer ya get to fights in my i.m.o

 

So help me understand why all top pros run long distances. They must know more than all the psuedo scientific trainings that have never actually boxed.

Also, see a thread in the training section that refutes the nonsense about boxing being primarily an anerobic sport. It is a aerobic sport.

 

roadwork is good, but it depends on the roadwork. just jogging is not enough..sprints help ....uphill intervils as well also 3 minute intense runs with 1 minute rest

 

Read this thread that explains why boxing is more aerobic than anerobic, which reinforces the need for distance running.


http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f14/myth- ... ng-965299/

 

Substitute "boxing" for MMA in this post. Actually more applicable to boxing.


This is basically just a rant, but I'm sick of reading all this nonsense that MMA is a predominantly anaerobic sport. There are so many articles these days floating around out there claiming you need to rely on lactic system for MMA and the aerobic system is overrated. Anyone who is making that claim is dead wrong and doesn't know what they are talking about!

Also, the idea that the aerobic system doesn't contribute to energy production for the first 1-2 minutes of exercise is completely false. Even at 100% execise intensity, in as little as 30 seconds the latest research has shown it is contributing up to 50% of the total ATP being regenerated. After that it obviously goes up to an even higher percentage.

People also need to realize that when the lactic system is working it inherently means that the aerobic system is working at 100% of its capacity. It doesn't stop working just because lactic metabolism is also contributing.

Fighting is an AEROBIC-ALACTIC sport and the aerobic system contributes by far the majority of ATP out of the three systems, especially as the fight wears on. Relying on anaerobic glycolysis for energy production is a sure fire way to gas yourself out in the first round. The more ATP you can regenerate Aerobically and the less you have to rely on the lactic and alactic systems the better.

People seriously need to stop with this idea that fighting is predominantly anaerobic because it is not. Sports like weightlifting, powerlifting, field events, 100 and 400m sprints, etc. are predominantly anaerobic, MMA is not. Also, both of the anaerobic systems are largely influenced and limited by genetics. Neither the lactic or alactic have a very large margin for improvement, it is the aerobic system that has tremendous ability to adapt and increase how much power it can generate.

Don't believe everything you read and do some research. MMA is an aerobic sport, plain and simple.

 

Long runs are best for weight control
Short fast runs are best for endurance.

 

atschatsch Let me guess im sure you have never sparred for a round much less 3 am i iright? You just started watching boxing right:huh Man im sure glad you werent part of Riddick bowe or Buster Douglas team or else those guys wouldnt have have even won the big fights that they did.

Also Ouma had good endurance. I havent seen his fights since hes been past it. But in his prime he had great stamina and threw lots of punches that was one of his best attributes.

 

To everyone the advocates extreme distance running for boxing... let me make a simple point. Muscle tissue requires more caloric energy, and oxygen then any other tissue in the human body. One of the first responses the human body has to aerobic conditioning is to burn off muscle tissue because of its energy consumption. Training for boxing is very tricky. It is not a specialized sport that requires only one physical attribute. Boxers need to be physically strong, fast and have a highly efficient cardiovascular system.
I strongly believe that day after day of running mile after mile is detrimental to conditioning a person for a fight. Roadwork does come close to mimicking the physical and mental exertion that occurs in a boxing match, or any fight for that matter. Not only must a fighter be trained to physical perfection, but he must also master his emotions which in my experience has proved to be the most difficult thing to do. The ability to relax in the ring, and to be calm under fire is without doubt the most important aspect of training a fighter, and the best way to do that is sparring.

 

I try and run about 4 miles a day on the treadmill,it keeps the weight off and i feel a lot fitter for it.I do some rowing as well.I never used to bother with that kind of thing,id just lift weights and do a little pad or bag work afterwards untill i got into my 30s and the weight started to go on.I think for a fighter road work is and always will be a big part of training.

 

The hell I havent had to get shape.


My point was not that running was worthless, its that is overrated and misunderstood in its benefits.


Simply running shitloads of miles for no reason doesnt accomplish anything. Past a certain threshold, generally around 8 miles, its becomes purely aerobic exercise and its useful for burning calories and shedding pounds.

Clottey runs 12 miles a day supposedly. He gasses in the later rounds. Is all that running really doing anything?

The conditioning required for boxing is not marathon running conditioning. Therefore running excessive miles is not required nor even wise to do.


Please explain "getting your red blood cells built up" and "open up strengthen your lungs"

Are we increasing the the red blood cell count in the blood? Is this strengthening the improvement of the boxers VO2 Max?

Are we trying to increase the slow twitch fibers in his legs because they cramp constantly and he has an overload of fast twitch fibers which cannot obviously support 12 rounds of sparring? I could advocate long distance running in that situation. Having that kind of muscle composition wouldnt be helpful for a boxer



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