The fact of the matter is though that even w/ Leo waiting for Duran to get out of shape and not enough time to get back in (He took diarettics and any moron can see the difference in his body from June 20 and Nov. 25. Palomino said when he saw Duran take off his robe and saw the lack of condition on the 25th, he knew he would lose) ray STILL was not hurting Duran or even really hitting him much. The fight was no blowout. The cards were close. Leonard did NO physical damage. He was just frustrating him and not really landing many blows. :vikingwha:And even Ray HIMSELF said that he gave Duran enough time to get out of shape and not enough time time to get back in. He said he though it was "CLEVER". I call it cowardess and **** like that and his refusal to have an even deck in later fights is why Ray's public image is so shitty right now. Plus people found him by the end to be the phony he was.
I'd disagree that simply moving up automatically diminished Curry. He was poised to be a big presence at 154 before he ran into a shotgun blast courtesy of Monster Mike. Duran was made to look like a killer in two consecutive outings at the weight, but not against Donald Currys. Remember, McCallum didn't bully and beat down Curry (far, far from it) - he patiently waited for a spot to time a perfect counterpunch - that is NOT Duran's game at any point of his career.
"EVEN WITH LEONARD WAITING FOR DURAN TO GET OUT OF SHAPE" - Yes Leonard new Duran was going to turn into a bloater and sinisterly waited until he was fat enough, do the Durantards really believe the **** they spout? In reality leonard wasnt keen on a rematch after he took a pasting and accepted 1 when his manager convinced him Duran was out of shape, however Durans weight was always up and down, the Leonard fight wasnt the first time he had a beer and fried food. Duran still trained his ass off for the rematch, duiretics or not, Duran was always a fan of Diuretics anyway, Ive used them myself they dont suddenly make you a zombie And as for the scorecards being close, they were but they shouldnt have been, Duran was getting outboxed for the majority of the fight and Leonard started to humiliate him.
I could see Duran getting outboxed if Curry kept him in centre ring on the end of his punches. I think Duran would have to get in close, problem i see with this is that Duran had a tendency to come in straight when he attacked and Curry's best punch was a counter left hook that he nailed many people with, most notably McCrory. Curry was a quick, poised fighter with an excellent long range game so i definetly dont see Duran having success from long range he would have to bum rush Curry, which i feel was Curry's Achilles heel, he was open to overhand rights and relentless aggression imo, however its like i said it can also be very dangerous to close the distance on Curry, wrecklessly anyway. Could go either way but i guess you would have to go with Duran because he was more accomplished.
He said it, probably in an off the cuff the remark, didnt mean its as great a factor or influential as you Durantards make it to be
Curry never really had it after his '86 loss to Lloyd Honeyghan at 147...... Curry went to hell rather quickly.... I even thought Curry looked lousy in beating Giafranco Rosi in '88 for the title there at 154 pounds....... After 1986, Curry proved to be shot to hell....... Duran was an enigma after 1980 and 147 pounds...... In truth, Duran was never the same after New Orleans / SRL....... An end of an era.......... BUT! When motivated and well-tuned, Duran was still able to kick ass pretty good up until 1995---circa........ Duran of 1983 beats the **** outta Curry of 1987 at 154 pounds.......:hat MR.BILL
PowerPuncher needs to read StoneHands recent Duran article that completely blows the 'Leonard was drawn into the wrong fight' myth.
We're not on the Leonard Duran thing again are we. For this and more see our million posts of yesteryear.
Yes because someone called 'stonehands' isn't going to have a natural bias. Bottom line Leonard on tiptoes beats any Duran 10 times out of 10