Would Muhammud Ali had Undefeated career if title had not been taken away 1967-1970

Ali may have gone undefeated from 1967-70, but no way would he retire undefeated.

He was addicted to the thrill, the limelight, and wasn't exactly the smartest with his money either.

He would've kept fighting on too long. It's a cliche now for great fighters to fight on too long.

 

I agree that he would have fought on too long most likely. That said, I think he probably would have beaten all comers until the late 70's. When he was at his most mobile post-exile form against Frazier in their second fight and Norton in their second fight, neither one could do much against Ali. The trouble was Ali couldn't maintain his dancing style post-exile for more than five rounds or so due to the layoff. Without the layoff, that wouldn't have been an issue.

 

Here is your answer [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur2RY_Sfw8Q[/ame] When he came back his hands were bad and he was never as fit

 

The layoff did a good job for his legacy as did it with joe's.
Had he not been suspended i think kenny norton would have handed hi hirst first defeat.

 

Who cares, It worked out great the way it did.

 

Im one of the few that thinks Ali had great moments ( liston, the combo that finished Big George ) but i think it was the man that was "the greatest", not the boxer.

Talk to any fighter from that erea, off the record of course, and they will tell you the same thing.

 

I came in here to post this. Norton was going to give him problems regardless. Still the greatest.

 

He still would have lost one to Frazier. And he still would have fought on too far past his best.

 

Ali was always going to fight until he couldn't fight anymore. It's just in him.

 

I'm not so sure about that. He struggled with Frazier after the long layoff, but took him out very easily in the rematch. It's said that Ali didn't train hard for the third fight because he thought Frazier was on the decline and wouldn't offer much resistance. IMHO the Ali who whooped Williams has no problems with any version of Frazier, OR Foreman for that matter. There just isn't any HW ever who could catch him when he could move for 15 rds straight, and even if they did catch him they couldn't hurt him.

 

Nah. Look what it took to keep him out of the sport. He had to get terribly ill and take a lot of beating to get him out. He never would've retired undefeated. He would've gone on and on and on. Maybe broken Joe Louis's all-time consecutive defense record. I could see that. But he'd have fought until he was satisfied he couldn't do it anymore. Too much of his ego was tied up in being the champion. My opinion.

 

It depends on how long Ali would have kept on fighting. I suspect he would have kept fight too long. He went down hill a lot with the lay off, but Ali depended on his speed.

 

If there's any HW in history that could beat prime Ali it's Joe Frazier. He's a classic pressure fighter to Ali's boxer, but out of all the great pressure fighters in HW history, Frazier was the best against slick boxer/movers due to his foot speed and the speed of his pressure, and the fact that he was probably the best body puncher in HW history. I don't think the second fight was easy at all, Ali resorted to illegal tactics and it was still competitive. The first fight was the best version of Ali there was post-exile, against the best version of Frazier, and Frazier won it clearly. Prime Ali against Prime Frazier I give Frazier one fight out of three.

 

Ali won a unanimous decision against the U.S. Government. No boxer has even done that. EVER.

 

No, I don't think so. He would have lost eventually.