Frazier vs Holmes

Over 15 it's Frazier but over 12 it could go either way ... another amazing, competitive bout ...

 

Inside, Larry had a deadly uppercut, as he showed against Weaver, and he could clinch well. The hook was never a particularly useful weapon against Holmes. A great right cross was needed, and Joe didn't have it. Also, Larry didn't give away body shots like Ali did. Holmes displayed 15 round stamina in leading both Berbick and Cobb wire to wire (pitching a shutout on many cards in each instance).

Larry (of Shavers II and Cobb) takes a rugged decision over the Frazier of 1969 and 1970. He wasn't as physically tough or athletically gifted as Ali, but he was smarter, and would use his ring intelligence to avoid absorbing the same level of debilitating punishment which depleted Muhammad. Holmes would not foolishly attempt rope a doping, but instead subject Joe to a fighting retreat, making Frazier pay for every inch of ground conceded. Smoke's head would be a grotesquely swollen mess after this one. Larry's hands, arms and body would hurt like hell by the end.

Any stoppage would be produced by Joe getting blinded, either through facial swelling, or from one of those infamous and notorious Holmes thumbs (except that Smoke was a clean fighter for his style, and I expect that Larry would reciprocate by refraining from foul shenanigans), but my safer guess is that it goes the distance. No knockdowns.

 

It's one of the hardest fantasy fights to call.

 

Good matchup. A real thinker.

It's a war, for sure. I think Frazier gets a UD but Holmes certainly has his rounds, specifically the earlier ones.

 

If anybody could neutralize Holmes' jab it would be Frazier. And if he can do that, then given he was able to pin down Ali and land, I think he'd be able to do it with Holmes.

 

Frazier was proven very beatable and out-pointable by a trained and tuned Ali in '74 and 1975...... Larry Holmes' style is closely related to Ali's style... So therefore, I see Holmes schooling Frazier with lefts and rights along with plenty of leg movement, too...... Holmes wins a 15 rounder in a tuff fight....

MR.BILL:hat

 

Whoever said Frazier was underrated was wrong. This is a 50/50 fight for me but he's slightly winning the poll. I think people have more of an affinity to Frazier than Holmes. I don't blame them, though.

 

I disagree...... Ali beat Frazier with ease in 1974 and Frazier was way behind going into round 12........ Ali is also TWO yrs older than Frazier is, as well........

Holmes proved his skill and metal against "Norton, Shavers, Weaver, Snipes and Cooney." I cannot see Frazier hitting Holmes harder than he's ever been hit before.... I just can't see that....... And Frazier's left-hook was his only real KO blow to be thrown by him.......

Larry Holmes was a much better boxer with blessed hand and foot speed and great skill, along with a concrete beard........ Holmes beats Frazier in a prime for prime match.......... Let's move on here....
:thumbsup

MR.BILL

 

Frazier was too easy to hit and would have to eat Larrys jab all night. Very hard fight for both but Holmes wins the last three to take a unanimous decision.

 

I can't see Holmes keeping Frazier off him or keeping out of his way.

Frazier would get him in the end.

 

I cant see Frazier being able to avoid that Jab; his face would be smashed to bits. Holmes wins a tough fight.