"Holmes vs. Cooney" 1982...

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  1. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Met Gerry Cooney in Newark airport about one year ago... Has to be one of the nicest, warmest human beings one could ever hope to meet... Larry Holmes considers Cooney to be one of the only true friends he has... Says Gerry would be there for him thru thick and thin unlike most.... Cooney has helped many with his foundation for ex-fighters F.I.S.T.
     
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  2. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes... But I'm goddamn sure that Vic Valle had Cooney fight a few "Gym" fights to help shake off some rust......... Cooney looked okay / good for the first 10 rds...... After round 10, Cooney's Irish "Green" began to surface... Holmes took notice and seized the moment.......

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  3. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duane Ford & Dave Morietti were BOTH biased judges who were licking Cooney's ball-sack during the fight for as long as possible......... Jerry Roth was the ONLY judge in tune with the picture on hand during the evening of June 11, 1982 in Vegas......... No way, points or no points, was Cooney winning the fight after round 10.......... NAW!!! Total bull****...... Holmes was the Ringmaster......... Peace.....

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  4. I am Legion

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    The hype surrounding the fight in the UK was huge; daily reports from the training camps on the main news programmes. The focus was always on Cooney being and white and hugely powerful.

    I was a big Holmes fan and never really thought Cooney had a chance but respect to Cooney he gave Larry a tough fight but the outcome was never really in doubt.

    Holmes was a real Ring General and knew how to control fights and I agree with the other poster that Holmes vs Spinks was his finest moment; that night it all came together a bit like Ali vs Cleveland Williams.
     
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  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I love to review "Holmes-Cooney." I was just getting out of my freshman year in school back in June of '82...... Holmes was a master and bitter champion, while Cooney was hyped and over-paid throughout his career........ But, again, I stress that Cooney rose to the occasion to give Holmes and the fans a great PPV fight....... The PPV was 20 bucks in Los Angeles.......

    I love the sneaky right-cross that Holmes hit Cooney with in round 2 to drop the Irishman........ A well timed shot to Cooney's left eye / temple.....

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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Did Cooney rise to the occasion or was Holmes simply ultra cautious and taking the path of least resistance?


    This is an easy question.
     
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  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No... That ain't easy to answer.......... Holmes boxed Cooney from the outset by sticking, moving and keeping at bay from Cooney's power shots for the first "5" rds that I could see... However, Cooney did get off with some vicious hooks to Holmes' mid-section during that period...

    Holmes settled down in round 6 and gave Cooney a good going over in which Cooney was staggering to remain upright........... Cooney was warm then and took Holmes' blows well..........

    Cooney was physically strong at 225 pounds in 1982.... He lacked certain finess and grace, but he made up for it in size and power......

    I thought Cooney had good strength and power in his body all the way up to the 10th round, then he began to wilt / tire a bit..... Holmes was also feeling the heat of the Vegas desert and was winded himself.... Still, Holmes was the seasoned veteran with the vast amount of experience over a game Cooney.........
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  8. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Simple... Judges Duane Ford and David Morietti were both biased fools, while Jerry Roth was on the level....... Cheers......

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  9. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i was sure,at the time,that larry would get rid of cooney inside 6
     
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  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    thats good to hear:good
     
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  11. JohnThomas1

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    He would have if he'd really wanted to.
     
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  12. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was so hot under the kleig lights that holmes entire bottoms of his feet blistered and were bleeding at the end of the fight.
     
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  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    that was what i thought
     
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  14. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never heard that story about Holmes' feet after the 'Cooney' fight of '82.

    I heard a story just like that about Roger Mayweather after he barely retained his 140 lb. title against Harold Brazier in 1988... That is an underrated and often forgotten classic title fight...

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  15. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    I agree. I always got the feeling that Holmes realised early that he could get Cooney out of there whenever he really wanted, and decided to sit back, let Cooney tire himself out, wear him down with the jab and then look to finish him for sure. I don't think he quite "carried" Cooney, but it certainly looked like he was letting the fight run a bit.
     
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