Pacquiao vs De la Hoya was a CATCHWEIGHT FIGHT

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  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Are you saying otherwise or is an emoticon the best you can do for a response? The fight was made because DLH wanted it. Every active boxer from 154 on down wanted the DLH sweepstake. No one fights DLH without doing it his way and terms!!! Whether he is the champ or not he gets the bigger slice. He makes the demands. The fight being at 147 was DLH's call. No one else can make that demand to PAC when he was at 135 other then DLH.
     
  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Technically, this fight could be considered a catchweight fight. One guy had to come down in weight, and the other guy had to come up in weight. Yeah, it did take place at the WW limit, but neither guy was a WW at the time. A catchweight is traditionally defined as fight between guys in two different divisions that takes place at a weight limit somewhere in between their weight classes. It don't see what the problem is though. Sure, Hoya was probably drained, but that's the inherint risk involved in a catchweight bout. One guy might be drained, the other guy may be bloated.
     
  3. Hostility

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    Just stick to the sport's definition of a catchweight fight, and you will have your answer.
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Williams went up to 154 and fought a middleweight then yes, but if he went up and fought a Jr middleweight then no. Your attempt to make someone sound stupid here is a massive FAIL, as always. Its sad that you are contesting this, I expect it from *******s, but not really from you.

    My thinking is its no accident that Pac has asked fighters to fight him at 144, 142, and people think that its out of line to think that he asked Oscar to come in at 145. There is no reasonable reason that Oscar would just out of the blue come in at 145. Its moronic to think so when he needed IV's before the fight.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Catchweight? Yeah, somebody had to catch Oscar after Pac kicked his arse!
     
  6. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    It's called a rope and turn buckle. LOL
     
  7. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Excellent point Lance!:good I've brought this up myself in the past and seem to get little response to those claiming "catch weight" for Manny vs DLH.
     
  8. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Plain and simple Oscar beat himself going in drained doesn't matter if it was a catchweight even Freddie Roach said that..
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Exactly, the definition of catch weight the fight could be called it.
     
  10. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess you missed my post then. Its not an excellent point. PWill is simply moving up in wieght and fighting guys at that weight. Pac is not just moving up, but he is asking guys to come down. which is what makes it catchweight. even if he fought at another weight its still a catchweight in the sense that neither of the guys fight at that weight.

    Its really simple, but for some reason people cant even admitt that much. I just dont understand it/ Oscar had been fighting as a jr middle for many many years, pac never had a fight at welterweight, whats not catchweight about that????
     
  11. andrewcuff

    andrewcuff Member Full Member

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    Exactly! Weight drained is when a fighter kills himself to make a specific weight class. Given that Oscar was down to the WW a good while before the fight, I think this excuse is complete BS.

    Also, Oscar was the one who wanted the fight at 147 and was the betting favourite beforehand.
     
  12. andrewcuff

    andrewcuff Member Full Member

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    Because a catchweight is defined as a weight outside of the normal weight class. 147 is the welterweight limit, therefore not a catchweight.
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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  15. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    Common sense is not enough. To prove that the scales were rigged. You need to look at the scales that they used and examine it.

    If Oscar really came in 2 pounds overweight then Oscar would have to pay Manny 6 mil!! Damn!