Should Margarito be banned for life?

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  1. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    I know!! I find that absurd!!!
     
  2. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Because the commisson, the people you are standing behind argue that the elements found were the same elements found in plaster paris, I can clearly see how your cut Eze, becuase you are siding with the commisson, or atleast you say you do, your supporting their findings yet here in this you want to argue that its something else.
    if it isnt plaster paris what is is? hand cream? Baking Soda? those have the same elements as the elements found in his wraps, so the bottom line is this, if its not plaster paris then really he does deserve to fight and should deserve an apology from those who have talked **** about him.
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Why does it matter what it is?

    WHY WAS IT THERE? It shouldn't be there.

    It seems that goes over your head.

    So if its not plaster of paris but some kind of wood glue, it's okay?

    Lmao..
     
  4. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Thats not the point...He should have never had them in there in the first place.

    He can only blame himself for doing this dumb ****!
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Great Post Sanity at last:bbb
     
  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    So now its gone from " Margarito loaded his gloves" to "Well he had something in there that shouldnt have been it doesnt matter if it was dangerous or not"
    Do you know how pathetic you Margarito haters are???? You have nothing on him no proof of wrong doings but still you persist in dissing him.
    Do you know why????????
    The boxers you idolise are scared shitless of Margarito, you know they cannot beat Tony in the ring so you try to keep him out by lieng about him
     
  7. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :patsch Give it up already...No matter how much you defend him, it still not going to erase the fact he was caught with visual evidence...Those ****ing wraps shouldnt have been there in the first place...Why is this so hard for you to understand...The cheating **** got caught! PERIOD!
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    To compare Resto & Panama Lewis to Margarito & Capetillo is absolutely preposterous.
    Resto & Lewis removed horse hair padding from Resto's gloves turning his hands into lethal weapons.
    At the worst Capetillo put old harmless pads in Margaritos wraps. Technically illegal but HARMLESS!!!!!!! Hell of a big difference
    Oh BTW can someone please tell me how Panama is STILL making money training fighters??? The claimed he was banned for life
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Shane Mosely, Roy Jones jr & Evander Holyfield All fought & WON!!!!!!!! while juiced up on illegal steroids how come youre not screaming for them to be banned??? How do you spell HYPOCRITE
     
  10. IsaL

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  11. IsaL

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    :good

    Margarito was one of the most hated fighters before the Cotto fight.

    PBF fans despised him for making PBF look like an idiot, and Rican fans hated him because he destroyed the second coming of Tito.

    Two huge fan bases against 1 fighter with a relative small fan base.
     
  12. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I used to like him and his fights were usually good.I agree though he should be banned for life.Boxing is dangerous enough without people cheating,peoples lives have been ruined in fair fights and its tragic for all involved.But when a guy goes out knowing he could cause lasting damage its a disgrace.Other pro fighters should just refuse to get in with him.
     
  13. freddy-wak

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    In response to the allegations of illegally wrapping his son’s hands, Felix Trinidad, SR. came out saying that he does place a lot of gauze on the hand of all his fighters, but not an excess amount of tape. On the other hand, the representatives of Bernard Hopkins who saw and contested Trinidad’s hand wrapping, tell a different story, saying Trinidad’s hands had four to five layers of gauze and tape, compared to only having a knuckle pad and then tape. [url]http://www.doghouseboxing.com/News/Rios/Rios012904.htm[/url]
     
  14. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Again, why did he even put these "old wraps" in his hands wraps in the first place...Thats still not going to erase anything...The man had the intention to cause harm when he placed those old wraps in his hand wraps...Tell me which other boxer has done this before?

    He's a pro and he's been fighting since he was teen, so he knows he cant put any old wraps into you're hand wraps going into a pro fight...He knows the rules.
     
  15. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    On September 29, 2001 before the fight between Bernard Hopkins and Felix Trinidad, team Hopkins sent a representative from their team to over-see Tito's hands being wrapped. When their representative arrived he was shocked to see that Tito's left hand was already wrapped, signed off and the boxing glove was on. In an exclusive interview Bernard Hopkins (said), "I sent my team in there to watch Trinidad wrap his hands and when they got thereTrinidad's left hand was already wrapped and he had his boxing glove on. So my trainer, Bouie Fisher who has been doing this stuff for a long time went over there to straighten it up. The thing is Trinidad has been getting away with doing this for a long time. I know for a fact that he has done it at least one other fight. They are used to being able to do whatever they want and get away with it. That is how it is in boxing."First of all, you have to wonder who this commissioner was that let Don Felix wrap Tito's hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp being there. Hopkins said, "not only did he let him wrap the hands without us being there, but he was in there joking and laughing and talking Spanish with the Trinidads like they were best friends. When Bouie told them that he would have to take it off and rewrap it in front of someone fron their camp, he said "NO," itsalready wrapped and it's too close to time for the fight to start. Bouie had to go to the head commissioner before they were made to rewrap his hands."Luckily for Hopkins, Bouie Fisher is old school and he was not going to let this fight go on with Tito having wrapped his left hand and nobody from his camp watching it. "Bouie kept telling them, either we do this by the book or we don't do it all," said Hopkins.It didn't make since to Fisher why the Trinidad's were so insistent on not rewrapping the hand because obviously they knew the rules. They have been in enough of these big fights to know that a representative from the other camp is allowed to be in the room while they are wrapping Tito's hand. Even if the New York Commission's Representative didn't know any better, the Trinidads definitely did. The Trinidads went so far as to actually say, "If we have to rewrap Tito's hand then there will be no fight."Why was this left hand wrapping so important to the Trinidads?Finally, after the head commissioner became involved the Trinidads were told to either rewrap the left hand or the fight was off. After much argument, they finally agreed to rewrap the hand with a member from the Hopkins team present.Tito was made to remove his glove and the prior wrapping in front of Hopkins representative Naazim Richardson who noticed that the wrap looked very thick and when he felt it he says it was as hard as a rock. All the sudden it became very clear why they had tried to get away with wrapping the left hand without anyone from the Hopkins camp watching and also why they didn't want to remove it and rewrap the hand.Don Felix began to rewrap the hand again, but Richardson noticed that Don Felix was putting layers of tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze, tape and then gauze which is not in accordance with NYSAC rules. The rules stipulate tape cannot be applied directly over the knuckles, and that repeating the process several times (is not permitted).In an interview with Bernard Fernandez of Philly.com, Hopkins said, "If you put on tape, then gauze, then tape, then gauze, it's like a [plaster] cast. It's like being hit with a baseball bat. I'm giving out some secrets here, but you can dip your hands in ice water and that tape will, like, marinate and become harder. But it's only cheating if you get caught. Personally, I think Vargas' and Reid's people dropped the ball. Naazim did a brilliant job in spotting what [Felix Trinidad Sr.] was doing with the wraps." Don Felix was also putting tape on the skin and over the knuckles, both of which are not in accordance with NYSAC rules. New York's head commissioner put his foot down and made Don Felix wrap in strict accordance to the rules.Don Felix has insisted in several interviews that, "I have always wrapped Tito's hands this way and nobody else has ever said anything."