Pacquiao vs De la Hoya was a CATCHWEIGHT FIGHT

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  1. ???

    ??? Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Which is why he would have a strong incentive to cheat. There were numerous reports from people who attended the weigh-in that stated there was a lengthy delay between the weigh-ins of all the undercard fighters and PAC/DLH. I have never attended a weigh-in, so I don't know if that's typical. However, it would provide the window to mess with the scales. Pac said that he weighed 146lbs at the hotel just before going to the weigh-in, and his nutritionist has stated the same.

    I believe it's more likely that DLH was nervous after Pacquiao came in too light (making the tampering very obvious, and opening him up to the big fine), so Oscar opted not to rehydrate until the unofficial weight was taken in order to throw off suspicion. Using IVs is an indication of a desperate attempt to rehydrate in a very short period of time. If Oscar had rehydrated normally overnight, after the weigh-in, he wouldn't have needed IVs.

    On the other hand, if Oscar spent the time after the weigh-in trying to boil off a couple extra pounds rather than rehydrating, it would explain how lethargic he looked during the fight, and also the need for IVs. Since he was infused after the unofficial weight was taken, he would have weighed more than 147 when he stepped in the ring.
     
  2. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oscar wasn't exactly thick at 154. To get back down to 147 he likely had to burn off some muscle, which is unwise, particularly at his age. Quite simply, men in their mid 30s, who are already very lean, aren't meant to lose 10 pounds of solid body mass. It's not healthy and it has some pretty adverse effects conditioning, muscular strength, etc...
     
  3. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Or you could just watch video of the weigh in and watch no one tamper with the scales between the pre-lim weight ins and the main event weigh in.
     
  4. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    geez guys, Oscar was so depleted and sickly looking. There was obviously no cheating lol I bet my left nut his weight was legit
     
  5. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Well that new username didn't last long, better think up a new one genuis.
     
  6. ???

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    Fair enough, do you mind sharing a link to this video? Unfortunately, I've never seen video capturing the entire time and activity that occurred in between.

    So what do you make of Pac's comments that he was really surprised when they said he registered a mere 142lbs? Why would Pac waste energy cutting that much weight, only to show up to fight at 148lbs? And why on God's earth would Oscar burn off an extra 2lbs from the contracted limit? The simplest way of reconciling the facts is that the scales were rigged.
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think the scales were tampered with but i do believe that the HBO unofficial fight night weight was not OScar's real ring weight. It simply doesn't make any sense. Either he rehydrated after the HBO weigh-in or the HBO weigh-in was falsified.
     
  8. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then explain why he would just happen to come in at the weight that Pac demanded that Cotto come in at, and the weight that team Pac has said they would demand that Clottey comes in at. If a man steals a car, then another it doesnt take him stealing a third to be called a car thief. I would bet my wifes car that it was demanded. As I said too much evidence that suggests that was the case.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch What's to ****in explain? There weren't any reports BEFORE the fight were there? Anything in the promotions or from Goldy on them having to meet at 145? yeah...the most powerful face in boxing was told what to do why Pac. AND he told him to keep it quiet right? ****in ****...:-(
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the elephant in the room. No one wants to mention this point.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Here you go rain man.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3558298

    "The fight will take place at the welterweight limit of 147 pounds, meaning Pacquiao (47-3-2, 35 KOs), a five-division champion who holds a 135-pound lightweight belt, will move up two weight classes. De La Hoya (39-5, 30 KOs), a six-division champion, will come down to 147, a weight he has not fought at since 2001. De La Hoya, primarily a 154-pound junior middleweight in recent years, came down to 150 for his May points victory against Steve Forbes."
     
  12. B-Flu

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    I do believe that and i remember that. But i cant find any of that info.... But also They considered the fight a catch weight fight Because thats what is was. Because Neither man was Fighting at the Welterweight Limit Before this fight So They decided on a mutual weight for both..... IN WHICH IS A CATCHWEIGHT FIGHTat the welter weight limit... But i give him credit for fighting at the welterweight limit
     
  13. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Mental ******ation at the lowest form.
    Trying to change the definition of 'catch weight' to discredit a boxer.
    How ****ing gay.
     
  14. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I posted an interveiw before the fight in which the guy asked Oscar if he was going to be able to make 145. I have been over this already. Along with Roach saying on ESPN that he wouldnt allow Pac to fight if Oscar was over 145.

    What you dont understand is Oscar needed a win over a big name fighter, and they thought Pac was that. Oscar had lost everyone of his major. Lost to shane and Strum really, then he lost to Hopkins, beat Mayorga, lost to Floyd beat Forbes...At which point he tried to fight a rematch with floyd but Floyd walked away. He then turned talks to Cotto, but his wife nixed that fight so where eles was he going to get that big name fighter??? He didnt really have many options, which gave Manny just enough leverage to ask for the 145 catchweight.
     
  15. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What would you call it??? neither man was a welterweight to start with. And as I point out there is really no such thing as a catchweight fight since every pound is technically included in a weightclass. This was a catchweight fight in every sence. niether was a welterweight and neither weighed in at the limit. :yep