Top 15 Greatest Heavyweights In History (Please Participate)

Horrible Horrible list Fraizer should be much higher I cant believe some of the guys you got above him Schmeling,Baeratsch An you got Leon Spinks on that list but no Ken Norton. You think Primo Carnera was better than Riddick Boweatsch

 

Please explain!

 

So, you rank this on resume? How ranks Bowe above Schmeling on resume. Please explain.

 

IMO, VK is one of the must underrated fighters of all time. He has been consistently dominant in all of his fights and, despite injury, should be considered one of the best ever.

However, I agree I am higher on VK than most. Hence the term "underrated".

He's got an awkward but effective style, he's a giant and he has a great chin. He knocks out almost everyone. His best wins are not spectacular but that is a product of the age he fights in--an age he dominates. He had LL on the ropes and on the way down but got stopped on cuts. His only other "loss" was when he could not continue versus Chris Byrd in a fight he was dominating because of injury.

Head to head, I think he'd be a tough out for anyone. His legacy is not all it could be because of injury and the time in which he fights, but it is still a pretty stout legacy IMO.

 

Holy and Tyson above Lewis on quite a few lists, will it ever end :-(

Tyson had 4-5 prime years, done **** all for 10 years and doesn't have a win as good as Vitali or Holy on his resume, please don't throw Spinks, Tucker at me, I will just laugh at you.
Holyfield was 'prime' vs Tyson yet 1 1/2 yrs later was 'past it' vs Lewis (Yes I've heard this from a few people), the bull**** double standards never stops.

Anyways:

1 - Ali
2 - Louis
3 - Holmes
4 - Lewis
5 - Foreman
6 - Marciano
7 - Frazier
8 - Holyfield
9 - Liston
10 - Tyson
11 - Dempsey
12 - Johnson
13 - Tunney
14 - Jeffries
15 - Patterson

 

Which Johnson is 12 and which Johnson is 15???

 

my bad, fixed it.

 

1. Muhammud Ali
2. Larry Holmes
3. Joe Louis
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Rocky Marciano
6. George Foreman
7. Jack Johnson
8. Joe Frazier
9. Mike Tyson
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Sonny Liston
12. Evander Holyfield
13. James Jeffries
14. John L Sullivan
15. Sam Langford

 

A solid list... Johnson a tad low though. One of the best ones I've seen, though.

 

Good list. However, you surely jest when you say the 37 year old EH who fought LL was in his "prime". C'mon. No doubt LL is a hof'er and I can see why you would choose to rank him so highly but Holy was most assuredly NOT in his prime when they fought. It isn't even really debatable. In fact, I've never heard anyone argue it.

Solid list though.

 

Never said Holy was in his prime, he wasn't, 91' - 93' Holy was prime imo.
What I would (and do) argue is that there wasn't any real difference between the Holy that fought Tyson and the one that fought Lewis.

Holy vs the smaller man could move forward, control the pace and didn't fear what Tyson threw at him.
When he got in the ring with the big guy however the comparison was hugely different, 6 inches in height, huge reach (Tyson 72" Lewis 84") and 20+ lbs more than what Tyson had.
He couldn't do what he did with Tyson.

 

Easy its a combination of resumes and HtH matchup, I give Lewis the bigger edge over Bowe in Resume, although Im only slightly leaning towards Bowe in a HTH matchup.

Bowe would have never lost to Steve Hamas, or drew with Paulino Uzcudan,Or kod by a Gypsy Daniels.
IN fact his only loss in his prime was to ATG Holyfield and he beat him twice. Bowes prime might not have been to long(and thats why I dont have him higher) but HTH he is definitly at least in the top 7 or maybe even around 5.

 

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Marciano
4. Holmes
5. Johnson
6. Foreman
7. Lewis
8. Tyson
9. Holyfield
10. Dempsey
11. Fraizer
12. Langford
13. Liston
14. Sullivan
15. Jeffries

 

Good list, I would probably move Johnson and Dempsey up two places each but other than that it is solid :good ( I do get uneasy about Lewis being that high though )

 

Well then here a good dose of laugh for you: even old Holmes is a much better win then Vitali. Hell, Tucker, Ruddock, Biggs, Thomas and yes SPINKS are better wins then Vitali.
This is no knock on LL's resume, as you can see I have him higher then both Holy and Tyson, this is a knock on the quality of QUITALI. deal:hi: