Ricky Hatton's place among the British greats?

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is a thread about Hatton, in the general forum, regarding his all time legacy and how he will be remembered. One guy posted that Hatton is a probable top 15 british atg? How accurate is that, and among brits where would he rank?

    I have always liked Hatton, and think he gets sold short alot since his 2 losses. Have 2 losses ever hurt a boxers legacy more than his? Anyway I am not a british expert but believe that top 15 seems high just off the top of my head...where do you find the appropriate spot for him among his country men???
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Absolutley not in the top 20. Generally underated on the Classic board though.
     
  3. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's an overachiever, i think you could find at least 30 to 40 British fighters that rate above him on actual fighting ability.His win over Kostya was a fine achievement even with the hometown advantage reffing, considering the talent he had.


    A poor man's Gianfranco Rosi.Potentially awkward to look good against, with a few good attributes, but a weak vulnerable world champion overall.Even accounting for Pac's abiity, i'd say his performance in that fight is one of the worst ever by a world class Brit fighter in a big fight.

    I'd be more leniant on him if he had been an honest pressure fighter that threw quality punches and fought clean aka Paul Hodkinson, who was no great talent either.But he wasn't, he was just a horrible fighter to watch.
     
  4. Caponecartels

    Caponecartels Maritime Lawyer Full Member

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    Top 30 then?
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Depends on your criteria i suppose. He overcame Kostya, and even if he was getting on a bit it's still a victory over one of the best fighters in the history of his division. Stepping up was impressive given his style. I think you could slot him in to a 30 if you felt like it.


    A fighter like Micheal Watson was better though.
     
  6. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And for those who do not know! (Thats me)! What constitutes a british fighter?

    UK Born
    does it include nations under british rule, or only Great Britan?

    for example Lennox Lewis was born to Jamaican parents, in london and won a gold medal for Canada! So is he a great:
    Jamaican boxer
    british boxer
    canadian boxer
    all 3????
     
  7. essexboy

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    Lennox was born in London so hes British. Hatton isnt anywhere talentwise but you cant deny he has some very good wins on his record, it depends what you like. I'd probably have him 20-30.
     
  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    See thats what makes part of this so hard for me to understand! Joe Frazier was born in South Carolina, but he is clearly a Philly phighter!
     
  9. Flea Man

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    That's totally different. Being born in one part of the country but becoming a fighter in another part of it is completely different from having a fighter who is born in one country, to parents from a different country and learns his trade in ANOTHER country.

    Just seemed a way to show off a tidbit of trivia if you ask me.
     
  10. kosaros

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  11. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    except most everyone knows it?
     
  12. janitor

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    I happen to think that history will be kind to the Hitman.

    I say this as one who identified the detail of his technical shortcomings when he was riding high.

    He reigned over the light welterweight division as lineal champion for four years, and lets face it he was not fighting bums and pretenders. He was fighting beltholders and contenders.

    As for his losses, history could be verry forgiving to a man who only lost to the two best pound for pound fighters of his era. Verry forgiving indeed.
     
  13. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dunno.I can see why you say that and agree to an extent, but he's more likely to really benefit from things like that if is there hardly any footage of him.

    I can't see him aging well for the neutral fan watching his fights in years down the line.Look at the backlash against fighters like Kingpetch and Galaxy, fighters either infinitely classier or more destructive than Ricky.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Good points from Janitor and Mantequilla. Even if Urango goes on to be dominant (highly unlikely IMO) viewing the Hatton fight would leave one underwhelmed to say the least.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Never enjoyed watching any of his fights? :think