Top 5 most overrated boxers of All Time

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That's the post you quoted.

 

Show me where

 

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6004459&postcount=486

 

Ran Mancini. Tough guy, but never a definitive champion in the division. Always the second or third best guy.

Michael Carbajal I thought was very overrated too. Great little slugger, but not an all time great as he was touted.

 

That's not what it says at all! You're a habitual and chronic liar. Must run in the family

 

Why is Ezzard Charles overated?

 

Pachilles. First off, very few Indians removes scalps from their enemies and they did not invent the practice. Scalping appears thousands of years earlier in Eurasia, and it was primarily carried out by European colonists in North America, not by Native American groups. Scalpes were used by colonists as proof of kills for bounties. Second, I guess I didn't expect to see scalps used in this discussion so I misread it. Everything I said it true, though. If you want to see some real scraps, then the fights I noted provide it.

Robinson, Armstrong, Napoles, Griffith, Gavilan, Whitaker, etc. - Leonard is going to have to get in line. Hell, even Duran has to be ranked ahead of Leonard on account of the fact that he proved in the ring that he was clearly the superior welterweight. His position in the welter ranks is strengthened by his domination of Carlos Palomino, the welterweight whom Benitez arguably didn't beat, or at best only barely beat. Had Duran stepped up earlier he likely would have beaten Benitez just as convincingly.

Leonard only beat Duran because Duran quit. We all saw that. What we didn't see is Leonard making Duran quit any more than we saw Leonard making Duran get out of shape or gorge himself after the weigh in. You are inventing a reality when you claim that one man makes another man quit. Oscar de la Hoya did not make Chavez quit in their second fight. Chavez quit. Etcetera. Don't present your desire as reality.

Hearns did make Leonard look inadequate. Leonard was lost for all but one or two rounds before Hearns fell apart. The side of Leonard's face looked like he had been hit upside the head by a brick. Have you actually seen the fight? Or are just reading a record? Even when Hearns legs were wobbling all over the place, Leonard was punching wildly and pushing Hearns down. The ref greatly assisted the cause. It was a very poor showing on Leonard's part. And if you believe that Leonard deserved a draw against Hearns in the rematch then I fear you don't know boxing. Leonard himself admitted he lost that fight!

I don't know what Leonard told Hagler after their fight, but based on what I saw, I think Hagler is probably right when he says Leonard said he beat him, as well. Because he did. So one judge saw it close for Leonard and another judge either doesn't get the sport he was asked to judge or was in love with Leonard or something else, that doesn't change what we can see with our own eyes.

As for Rocky movies. I am a lot older than you think. Rocky might have driven me a way from boxing (I say smiling, although the first movie wasn't that bad), since I have been watching boxing for many, many years before the first movie - except that no movie could change my love for this sport.

 

Yes it does. It's the post here: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6003893&postcount=483

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Me personally i can not overate any fighter in the HOF.

They have earned the right to be praised.

 

Sweet Pea? Who listens to him? He just stays home all day and reads boxing magazines, hoping that some day he'll know as much as me. And i hope I dont have to tell you what he does at night

 

Correct.

The vast majority of the Classic forum.

Which is probably one of the things that makes him so knowledgeable.

I guess he didn't set the bar very high for himself then.

Why, do you watch him?

 

atsch:huh:good:hat

MR.BILL

 

1. Mike Tyson
2. Oscar De LaHoya
3. Milton McCroy
4. Evander Holyfield
5. Arturo Gatti (that one hurt. I loved to watch Gatti fights. Heart of a lion, but never as good as his press)

I only chose fighters that I saw fight a lot, and only retired fighters. It's unfair to say an active fighter is overrated until you can look at his entire career.

 

No way, tyson was madly overated, Lewis is a top 5 ATG heavyweight, beat everyone, your either a pissed canadian or a typical yank.