Is Chris Eubank a top 100 ATG?

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  1. essexboy

    essexboy The Cat Full Member

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    He didnt even fight any of the best middleweights/super-middleweights from his era how can he be a top 100 ATG? James Toney yes, Mike McCallum yes, Sumbu Kalambay maybe, Chris Eubank no. Eubank's a great British boxer and he had some great fights against domestic/Irish opposition but he never made the leap to the top fighters.
     
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  2. agentsmith

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    I would rank him somewhere between 100-150 on the ATG list
     
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  3. UndisputedUK

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    No. But he was brilliant in the UK. He was THE man in UK boxing in the very late 80's and early 90's. He was hated at the start and loved at the end. A true transformation. Dual WBO champion, will be remembered for the first battle with Benn, the excellent competitive fights with Watson and Collins and the titanic struggles with Carl Thompson. Had the guts to face Calzaghe and did reasonably well. Without a doubt, in his 168lbs prime he would have handled Froch no problems.
     
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  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    'fraid not. He's outside of the Top 100.
     
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  5. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Eubank beat better fighters than Calzaghe, but Calzaghe was the 100% world champion after beating Lacy and Kessler. Eubank only a 25% champ.

    Benn, Watson in '91, Malinga at the start of '92, Rocchigiani at the start of '94, were all at their very best.

    Benn, between his Watson and McClellan fights...

    Watson, getting better with each fight - wasn't ring-rusty prior to Eubank fights as he was prior to McCallum fight...

    Henry Wharton, froze against Benn but was on fire against Eubank - never the same after Eubank fight...

    Also Lindell Holmes and Tony Thornton were hardly slouches - I rate them way over Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell. Ofcourse Graciano Rocchigiani was about two levels above Mario Veit as an operator. I rate Rocky over Kessler, too.
     
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  6. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    fair point. for what its worth, i rate ike williams as the 2nd best lightweight of all time (maybe a stretch but he's certainly top 5) and any win over him, especially a knockout win, rates pretty high
     
    Jorodz, Jan 30, 2010
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  7. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Don't know about Sumbu Kalambay. McCallum for sure being a three-weight world champ of the major titles and avenging the Kalambay defeat, drawing Toney.
     
    atberry, Jan 31, 2010
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  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Talk to me at the end or SUper 6:yep
     
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  9. Hattons Hook

    Hattons Hook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably not but i bet alot of the people on here dismissing him have never seen him fight.
     
    Hattons Hook, Jan 31, 2010
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  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Lopez is funny because I can understand a lot of different spots on the ATG list. Even being put on a very short list, and I'd always accept the explanation ''Dude, it's Ricardo Lopez.'' as valid.
     
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  11. Jorodz

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    :goodall someone needs to do is watch a ricardo lopez fight and that's all the explanation need
     
    Jorodz, Jan 31, 2010
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  12. atberry

    atberry Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I do know about Sumbu Kalambay, sorry. I wouldn't put him on a great all-time list.
     
    atberry, Jan 31, 2010
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  13. superdan1875

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    People who don't think he's an ATG are adamant about it
    People who do, seem to put him highly

    Love him or hate him
    Theres only one Chris Eubank
     
    superdan1875, Jan 31, 2010
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No, no, no. Nor is he top 200 in my estimation.
     
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  15. McGrain

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    Amen to that though. Those were the days.
     
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