Joe Calzaghe, among top 25 Super Middleweight in boxing history?!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by punch13, Jan 31, 2010.

  1. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2007
    Messages:
    2,523
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joe Calzaghe ranks high among all-time super middleweight boxers during his 15 year boxing profession.

    Does Joe Calzaghe deserve to be in top 25 super middleweight in boxing history?!

    A good handful of superb super middleweights in boxing history, but I say Joe Calzaghe does make it in.
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    52,105
    Likes Received:
    27,472
    Considering that SUPER middleweight is a relatively young division and hasn't been around for that many decades, I think Calzaghe rates very high within those perameters. In fact, there are some who even rate him as #1 at that weight class, though I don't know exactly how prestigeous that claim really is.

    Not so very long ago, and before the division's founding, Calzaghe would have had to settle for either fighting at light heavyweight or middleweight.. Frankly I don't think he'd be rated very high at either.
     
  3. tonyteb

    tonyteb Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2009
    Messages:
    544
    Likes Received:
    0
    yes joe is inthere somewhere but roy jones was the best ever at 168
     
  4. prideofvbeach

    prideofvbeach Top 10 Pound-For-Pound Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    2,557
    Likes Received:
    0
    He is number one, but really his only real competition for that crown is Benn, Eubank, and Collins because it is a thirty year old division. Park, Baek, Lacy, Kessler...great fighters at their best, but would any of these guys make the IBHOF? No Way. Even the legends who stopped in at SMW just did it for a brief time like Jones, Toney, Hearns, or Leonard.
     
  5. mattj180

    mattj180 New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2008
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    0
    top 25? he held the title for over 10 years and you think he's good enough for the top 25 - now there's a bold statement.

    most of the top US champs used the SM as a stop-over to bigger fights so I'd be pretty hard pushed to think of a better SM champ then Calzaghe.
     
  6. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2009
    Messages:
    13,656
    Likes Received:
    696
    joe isn't american. he does not belong in the top 25 super mids.
     
  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2009
    Messages:
    39,748
    Likes Received:
    3
    The Super Middleweight has never exactly been a beast of a division. Yes I'd say Calzaghe can go down in history as one of the best in this weightclass, but againt, it's hardly an amazing achievement.
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2007
    Messages:
    37,866
    Likes Received:
    45
    Agreed.
     
  9. prideofvbeach

    prideofvbeach Top 10 Pound-For-Pound Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2007
    Messages:
    2,557
    Likes Received:
    0
    Correction...Jones did more than visit, but if you get into a who did Calzaghe fight at SMW, I suggest you do the same for Jones...outside of Toney, he who? A burned out Vinny Paz? Thulani Malinga maybe? Their level of opposite at SMW is surprising similiar.
     
  10. Finn73

    Finn73 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    3,322
    Likes Received:
    0
    He belongs to the 10 best ever...
     
  11. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    8,034
    Likes Received:
    107
    This is a hate baiter thread. Calzaghe is #1 at 168 ever. He'd have lost
    to a prime RJJ in a close fight, but he accomplished more than any one else at the weight. Joe Calzaghe is why SMW is relevant today. He not only is the best supermiddle ever, but the pioneer of anything that becomes of it in the future. Until somebody comes along and holds all 4
    belts, and wins the Ring mag belt outright. Joe has a lock on 168. That's just the facts folks.
     
  12. Xavier

    Xavier Boxing Logician Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    1,260
    Likes Received:
    3
    SMW division was pretty lousy, as divisions go. To answer the OP - yes, and then some. Prob one of the best in the division ever. As has been mentioned, this doesn't really say much. Here I'm NOT considering those fighters for whom SMW was clearly just a pit-stop ala RJJ.
     
  13. ramsgate-chap

    ramsgate-chap GURU Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2008
    Messages:
    238
    Likes Received:
    0
    yes. as far as records go, joe deserves to be there or abouts
     
  14. kk17

    kk17 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    6,177
    Likes Received:
    917
    At the moment he should be the best Super Middleweight in boxing history
     
  15. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    8,034
    Likes Received:
    107


    OK. You are officially a moron.