pavlik owns williams and martinez,,,,,,,,,,,,

Martinez would like to have a rematch with PWilly at 154.

Pavlik stood center ring, laughed at PWilly, openly made fun of him, and offered him a career high pay day.

PWilliy is negotiating a fight with Cintron.

 

Everyone knows you and Farmboxer are related so stop BS'ing!

And stop acting as if you haven't said any derogatory **** about Africa Americans in the past MoFo!!(people can read between the lines *******)

 

jermain taylor didnt get that memo :yep

 

No one in JT's camp got that memo!!

Personally I think if JT had taken Pavlik more seriously we would never know who Pavlik is today!!

In the second fight JT was to scared to get caught with a punch!!!

BTW JT was ahead on all 3 score cards at the time of stoppage in first fight!!!

 

this is one of the many problems w/ pavlik haters. and you most certainly are one of those. you trivialize just how good hopkins is in your effort to trash kelly. hopkins was a top p4p fighter 2 weight classes above kelly who just arguably beat joe calzaghe. maaaaaaaaaaybe just slightly above quintana's level :yep (couldn't help myself)

"an old b hop"... but i will say that's not as bad as the hate Mr. HU spills when he says hopkins was 15 years past his prime.

 

listen to stewards comments after the fight about what direction it was taking...that about says it all...

bernard hopkins even said that was a joke that jt was ahead.

JT scared to get caught w/ a punch huh??? wonder why anyone would be scared of anything pavlik would do in the ring if he's as bad as you say :nono

 

Since your trying to get at something!:hey I'll clarify for you!

That's why i said Team Taylor never got the memo!!

There is a big difference between JT getting hit with a punch and PW getting hit with a punch! Paul knows how to fight through adversity!! He's proved it many times!! Jermaine looks as if he's scared when hit!!!

 

Honestly I don't know I've never been hit by KP, PW, AM, SM, JT, BH, ect............!!!

You tell me!!! You keep talking about how hard KP hits, did he punch you in the face!!!:huh

 

you are correct, paul williams does stand up to adversity well. at least the adversity he's been faced with. and jermain does tend to overthink in the ring.

but you cannot sit there and tell me that paul has ever fought through the adveristy that would be presented by a big mw w/ an 86% ko ratio. he never has...and that is one of the many things ive said all along. you have no frame of reference to say he could wade through that.

 

Pavlik is a ***** and won't fight Williams. Williams wanted the fight before, who pulled out?

Pavlik.

 

Like I tell Boo I'm not into stats cause we can make Espino seem like a good fighter based upon him nearly having a 50% connect rate on Kelly!!!

Your right PW hasn't fought a "big" MW but Pavlik hasn't fought a guy like PW EVER!!! Not comparing Paul to Pac-man but people swore Cotto, Hatton and Del la Hoya was going to kill Pac based on size alone!!!:yep

That "big" MW stuff means nothing when a guy has better attributes!

 

and paul was in the 20's against a human punching bag in margo.

but yes you are right that a lot of people felt pac would lose all three of those fights since he was the smaller fighter. i was one who didnt see the odlh thrashing coming. i had said in some pm's that i expected cotto to get blown out...i wouldnt dare wade into those ww threads and say that lest you get cut to pieces by some of those ww huggers. **** is brutal in those threads :deal i read through them and have to laugh. ive actually seen posters begging other posters for an address so they can meet and fight. pathetic, really

size alone isnt the be all end all, your right.