Does anyone feel is posible that cotto's losses came from cheats?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PR BOXING, Feb 5, 2010.

  1. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2010
    Messages:
    5,669
    Likes Received:
    12
    Of course, there is no proof of pacman cheating and we dont officialy know that margo used plaster vs cotto

    But, how sad would it be if in fact, a fighter so good and entertaining like cotto could never recover from back 2 back beatings from cheating fighters?

    im not saying he'll still be undeafeated cause hes very flawed and would've lost to floyd anyway. but i think hes career whould've been very different if the margo fight didnt happen.

    whats your take???
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2007
    Messages:
    79,438
    Likes Received:
    2,647
    I think what struck me most about the Margo fight was not the power in Margo's punches but the way he was able to walk through all of Cotto's flush power punches and still land clean. As if Cotto was unable to get his respect with his own power.

    Margo was a machine that night. Not so much his power as his chin and his stamina.
     
  3. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2009
    Messages:
    7,906
    Likes Received:
    32
    Only the Ricans and Cotto nuthuggers feel this way. It's the same old whining whenever the topic is mentioned.

    Cotto was outboxed and nearly taken out by Torres had it not been for the low blows. Mosley clearly beat Cotto and had him running in the last quarter of the fight. He went life and death with N'Dou back at JW. He went life and death with Judah and had it not also been for the low blows, the fight would've had a different result.

    The writing was clearly on the wall yet the Cotto huggers refuse to believe that Cotto was more hype than substance. Margarito beats Cotto 100 times out of 100. Cotto hates pressure and iron chins. Margarito has both.
     
  4. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,735
    Likes Received:
    1
    I'm pretty confident Margarito used plaster in his wraps when he fought Cotto, so yes. But Pacquiao, no.
     
  5. steele311

    steele311 Wanna Dance? Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2009
    Messages:
    2,248
    Likes Received:
    0
    Wouldn't that be depressing.... I mean... ****.
     
  6. TheJuggernaut

    TheJuggernaut Hitchslap Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2008
    Messages:
    7,254
    Likes Received:
    109
  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2007
    Messages:
    12,344
    Likes Received:
    7
    Yeah, and from round 2 on the bodywork Margarito is investing in, is heavy and brutal.



    As to the original TS post; Cotto had bad habits when he entered welter. He would hit an opponent hard and instead of going in for further hurt he would back away for no apparent reason. He was in love with his footwork, thought himself a Ray Leonard, and would use unneccerary movement, precious time wasting, and in the end not have his feet planted to make his shots count. There was no cheating involved. You can watch all his fights and actually see where the bad habits start and how it progesses with each opponent. By the time he fought Pac I knew he was a fighter who had already quit, who is on the backfoot the last three rounds of every fight, and who does not commit himself to his hard shots anymore. Margarito and Pac are both fighters who do not tire in the later rounds. I mean, for me at least, the writing was on the wall.
     
  8. SevenSamurai

    SevenSamurai 3 year ESB vet. Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2005
    Messages:
    1,735
    Likes Received:
    1
    1. Cotto was beating Torres at the time of the stoppage
    2. Mosley never clearly beat Cotto.
    3. Aside from a few scares, Cotto beat the ****ing **** out of Judah.
    4. You're a tool. Log off.
     
  9. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2004
    Messages:
    33,921
    Likes Received:
    136
    Its possible but we will never know.
     
  10. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2006
    Messages:
    65,862
    Likes Received:
    16
    cotto is the man, look at his resume

    mosley
    margo
    clottey
    pac
    quintana
    judah

    he is a true bad ass.
     
  11. Ectoplasm

    Ectoplasm BOXING IS DEAD Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2008
    Messages:
    2,125
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Margarito loss came as a result of cheating, but I doubt the Pacquiao one did. Manny is just a machine.
     
  12. bazza12

    bazza12 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2009
    Messages:
    4,561
    Likes Received:
    5
    :deal Agree with all of these.
     
  13. Jacory Harris

    Jacory Harris I'm a gorilla I'm a dawg! Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2009
    Messages:
    7,906
    Likes Received:
    32


    Yeah, Margarito is such a cheating *******. How dare he insert plaster into his chin and walk through everything but the kitchen sink when he fought Cotto:-(
     
  14. evan_bod

    evan_bod Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2007
    Messages:
    152
    Likes Received:
    0
    He lost because he got his ass beat, end of.
     
  15. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2007
    Messages:
    17,255
    Likes Received:
    14
    Is there possible Cotto is just a bum?