Duran from Montreal vs Leonard (New Orleans)

I can't explain anything to you as i hold you in the utmost contempt, you're just blind, one sided & do not have the required mental capacity or expeareance to debate this issue. You'll just have to ask yer parents why you are as ignorant as you are, it's no doubt genetic.

For anyone to come up with your take on events between Duran & Leonard along with a few other weak minded greenhorns just shows a gross ignorance of the sport so don't blame me for you failings so just go man up & look in the mirror & confess to the fact that you FAIL:deal

There's been enough threads & posts from plenty of knowlegble people on Duran/Leonard to have educated you by now, but you're obviously into the celeb loving culture & blind to the obvious that you just don't want to admit you've supported one of the most revilled charlatons that boxing produced this last 30 years.

 

Now boys......

 

Duran fought a great fight, a fight that Leonard was not ready for. If it's one thing I learned about Leonard, it's that sometimes he fought the oppositions fight. He did it with Larry Barnes, Kalule, Lalonde, Hearns, Duran. Most often than not, he came back and won the fight, though. When Leonard was prepared, he was very hard to beat. N.O. Leonard was ready for any Duran that showed up, and I think he would have outboxed Duran any time, even though it would have been a very tough fight.

 

If Leonard stuck to the gameplan as he did in the second fight he wins every time. He nearly beat Duran at his own game in the first fight but boxed beautifully in the second and broke Duran down. So Leonard, either by decision or the same outcome of the second fight.

 

hey dont blame me, i am sure you know he gets this way whenever anyone has the littlest thing to say about duran. the thing is i dont like duran but i respect him and i dont think he gets that. leonard in my opinion is just more talented and if he fought the proper fight could beat duran

 

Com'on now!! I expected better than this from you!!

I suggest you sit down with a few beers & watch the Montreal fight again with the volume turned down so as not to be influenced by the pro-Leonard foreskin sucking commentary & you will def have a job to give Leonard 5 rounds max.

Leonard himself said he fought the correct fight as he had all the physical advantages, but was stunned at Duran's speed of counter & whatever he tried Duran had the answer too it, Duran out boxed him in all departments. Duran beat Leonard inside & outside, he nullified Leonard.

So go watch it again & forget about West Hams imminant relegation to the championship as it was always on the cards as anyone that knows boxing knew you Hammers were doomed

 

Leonard gave a Lou Bizarro impression inthe rematch, it was hardly sublime boxing.In fact it was for the most part relatively second-rate safety first spoiler stuff.Leonard wasn't the most effective at fighting off the backfoot really.

Which makes it all the worse that Duran quit.

 

Maybe you're right Duranimal, maybe you're right but its just not the way I see it. I do think Duran won the first fight indeed but I did have it close I admit. Duran is my favourite of the four without doubt and at lightweight he cleans up but Leonard was just the better boxer at welterweight, I do think he could have beaten Duran in the first fight with better (or more cautious) tactics but wanted to prove he could mix it with Duran and came unstuck but thats me.

Oh and theres no need to bring West Ham into this.

 

Thank you!! Thats exactly what i've been saying for years & i'am not suprised that 95% of so called leonard fans on ESB don't know that, the way Leonard fought in New Orleans was alien too him. Leonard was always a vicious agressive mid range frontrunner who's defence was mostly based on those blistering combo's that he'd unload in offence or countering & he'd plant his feet at the 1st opportunity.

His Ali impersonation in the Hearns fight handed all the rounds to Hearns who had that in the bag until the 13th as all that posing in New Orleans went to his head & if over 12 rounds it would have been Hearns the victor.

If only Duran had not been the party animal that he was & even lost the decision to Leonard in New Orleans there would have been a 3rd fight within 18 months & i bet Duran would have taken his preperation a bit more seriously & we would'nt have been subjected too the Leonard media loving circus career that followed what with all the fake retirements. Duran quiting the way he did really made Leonard for all the wrong reasons IMO.

Leonard flat out refused to even contimplate giving Duran a 3rd fight as he said it would be bad for boxing, just like he would'nt give a natural re-match to Hearns. Leonard never ever gave anyone a re-match if he thought that there was a risk.

 

duranimal, without the childish comments these are my feelings on the fight.

 

All I ask is for proof...When at any point in Leonard's career up until the first Duran fight and until his first retirement did he fight like he did in the Duran rematch?

Im still waiting for these examples. THE REMATCH WAS NOT HIS STYLE OF FIGHT. There is just no film that I have seen that supports the argument that Leonard was fighting his real style in the rematch. Not even in his days at the Olympics.

 

Full credit to Duran for the first fight. Leonard never faced anything close to the intensity that Duran brought. Leonard grew in the first fight and I believe he beats Duran the second time around (which he did anyway).
This whole theory of Leonard rushed Duran into the second fight is BS. History showed that if Duran had more time for the second fight he would've gotten himself further out of shape.

 

I like the way people say Leonard ran in the second fight. The point is, he made a man quit. Leonard fought brilliantly enough to make the most savage fighter of his time quit. That is impressive. Saying the guy quit is just crying over spilled milk. Instead of saying one guy was running, people should think about what their fighter could have done to cut off the ring and win the fight.

 

You've just hit them with the electic chair question

I bet MAG1968 is in a twisted heap on the pan trying to come up with another mutant excuse

He will:yep i have faith in him:smoke

HEY MAG......YOU ABOUT!!!!!!

 

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